The Militia Act of 1903

I am well past the age to be in the "militia" but I am still a part of the "people" to regulate that militia.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Bob Wright
 
RamItOne said:
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(a) To be eligible for original enlistment in the National Guard, ...
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But that's to enlist in the National Guard, which is the organized militia. Your previous post specifically said veterans up to the age of 65 are accepted into the UNorganized milita. The statute you just cited doesn't even address the unorganized militia.

RamItOne said:
Botswana if you are former military they let those old timers in the unorganized militia up to age 65
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If the unorganized militia is ever needed, i.e. we are invaded Red Dawn style, I would hope each and every one of you would forget the age discrimination and fight back. Its only a number on a paper, that HAD to have some sort of limit, no? But when push comes to shove I'd expect all you 65 and up folks to at least shoot from your recliner, that's not asking too much is it? :rolleyes:
 
Just don't ask,,,

But when push comes to shove I'd expect all you 65 and up folks to at least shoot from your recliner, that's not asking too much is it?
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Just don't ask me to go scampering around the mountains anymore. ;)

Aarond

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cannonfire said:
.....I'd expect all you 65 and up folks to at least shoot from your recliner.....
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Recliner!......George S. Patton never sat in a recliner, he was advancing all the time and kicking the enemy in the _ _ _ _. I may not have a tank, but my ATV with handlebar mounted armament won't be in the rear. :p
 
Cannonfire said:
But when push comes to shove I'd expect all you 65 and up folks to at least shoot from your recliner, that's not asking too much is it?
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Oh, heck -- I'd even grab an AR-15 and a 1911 and a few magazines for each and muster on the village green if it came to that. But, as aarondgraham wrote, just don't expect me to go scampering around the mountains. But I'll happily be one of those rifles behind every blade of grass types. Now that the Feds have pretty much absorbed the National Guard into the active duty military, the unorganized militia is all that's left to "defend the home front" in many areas. I'm over 65, but if I showed up with the requisite arms and attitude, I doubt they'd send me home.
 
Only applicants or "interested" parties need to take the ASVAB, not everyone. It's voluntary.;)
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Let me rephrase, if you wanted a diploma from Macon County High School, at least in 2003, you took the ASVAB. If you didn't want to graduate, then I suppose you could have refused;).
 
Let me rephrase, if you wanted a diploma from Macon County High School, at least in 2003, you took the ASVAB. If you didn't want to graduate, then I suppose you could have refused.
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Why go pestering all those people, most of which don't even care about serving when there's so many who would sign up on the spot if you just put a contract in front of them.

Like me

Tried enlisting like 5 times in various branches...still got denied :mad:
 
There is a provision for retired military personnel to be called back to active duty.

Every so often I get a letter from the Air Force reminding me that I have to update my information because of this requirement. If I remember correctly, the requirement ends when I turn 65 or am disqualified by for medical reasons.

What would they call the old guys who reported? The grey beards? Geriatric battalion? Grumpy old farts?
 
Are you referring to the Individual Ready Reserve?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual_Ready_Reserve

The Individual Ready Reserve (IRR) is a category of the Ready Reserve of the Reserve Component of the Armed Forces of the United States composed of former active duty or reserve military personnel, and is authorized under 10 U.S.C. ch. 1005. As of 22 June 2004, the IRR had approximately 112,000 members (does not include all service IRR populations) composed of enlisted personnel and officers, with more than 200 Military Occupational Specialties are represented, including combat arms, combat support, and combat service support.

An individual assigned to the IRR receives no pay and is not obligated to drill, conduct annual training, or participate in any military activities (except for periodic Muster activities) until activated by Presidential Reserve Callup Authority.
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My son had to report for what amounted to a muster periodically after he got out of the army. That continued until he was discharged. That's what has been done for the last few years. I didn't have to do any such thing when I got out after my three years, although I later joined the D.C. National Guard (city boy, you know). However, I believe that draftees, who had only spent two years on active duty, were assigned to an army reserve unit upon separation for another two years, but I'm not sure about that.

Separated individuals were commonly called back in the past when needed.
 
Uncle Buck - I like you am retired from the military. If you were ever called back you would be assigned to a training unit or to an installation position so that the young guys could be deployed. Therefore you are called either a instructor or a place holder.

I met many of the retirees that volunteered during Desert Storm. They could only be assigned to CONUS unless they volunteered to be deployed forward. Most of those that I met could hardly understand how to wear the modern uniform :D.
 
Haha Tactical Hoveround Battalion!! That's funny.

In all seriousness my point I was trying to make was that the government had to put an age restriction in the law. But that does not mean that in an emergency (invasion etc) that if you are over 65 meaning you don't have to defend your country. Personally I feel that a militia are a group of citizens fighting that are not part of the nation's military, who band together to fight for a cause. I do not consider the national guard a militia, they are a reserve aspect except with combat capabilities. For example, under my definition the "rebels" in Syria are militia. They are not a formal military (although many were prior service)

So my recliner joke was only to say that even if you are over 65 you can still join a militia, just not the nation's militia (what ever that is)
 
I don't wish to get into an argument over this point but I definately feel that in the colonial period, the militia was clearly an arm of the government. It did not exist outside and apart from government. It was not self-appointed or self-regulated. George Mason was very particular in specifiying that the militia be subject of civil authority, although in all candor, I have no idea why this worried him.

At the time, the militia was officered by the local gentry, like George Washington. It was not composed of men who did not like the government. I also feel that the national guard is the equivalent of the militia today. The army's reserve is the Army Reserve. You generally don't go from active army service into the national guard.

This has nothing to do with the right to keep and bear arms. I'm only speaking of the militia.

Other countries have had militias of various types, some intended entirely for local defense and which could not be sent overseas. There were also sometimes so-called volunteer units, which the regular army had a low regard for. Personally, I think that today in this country, we rely too much on the national guard and reserve units but that's just my opinion.

Other countries have also formed units of over-age men that were sometimes called veteran battalions or invalid battalions. Not sure if they were worth much but every man who could walk was formed up and marched to the front in Germany in 1945 along with boys.

All those rebels and private militias around the world give "militia" a bad name.
 
There is a provision for retired military personnel to be called back to active duty.
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The way it was taught to me in Navy OCS is that when you hit 20 years, you can transfer to the "Fleet Reserve"( at least that's what the Navy calls it) and start drawing your pension. While in the Fleet Reserve, you can be recalled to active duty in an emergency. If you hit 30 years before you retire, you skip the Fleet Reserve and go into a "retired" status and cannot be recalled from that. This was back in the early 80's so it might have changed since then and other branches may have different rules.
 
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