The legal aspect of owning long range rifles

"that is the part of hunting that attracts me the most."

I could tell from your posts, SS. How refreshing! & like a new Son to me.

In all seriousness, if you care to, & if you are able to, the offer is extended & the two of us will go "walk the woods" for "a while" to see what there is to see. My e-mail's available ..... for any season. These skills do not depend on actually killing the game - any time, young man.

Many walk the woods to hunt, many walk the woods & actually see - few of those actually do what they set out to do. (think I'll coin that ;) ) ... in any event, most don't get to do what they want simply because they don't know how to become part of the woods.

Otherwise, it would be called shootin', not huntin'.

Enough "toys" are available, but I think that you are more interested in how to get "close 'n personal." No? I like that.

Once you can do that, anything else, really, is a moot point.
 
Having a high dollar "gee whiz" rifle is important to competive long range shooters.
That said, it is MUCH more important to practice.
An air rifle will get you practice and you can use it in places you couldn't use a firearm.
In order to get closer to your goal, a .22 will let you transition to firearms.
Beyond that you get into buying your dream rifle or as close as you can find and/or afford.
Chances are that whatever you get first will get you hooked on it and point you in the direction of your next one.
I have found that most surplus bolt actions are well made and fairly accurate and won't cost an arm and a leg.
Also, there is a chance that you might be able to find a trainer .22 version and the regular production version of the same gun.
For example I once fired a .22 version of a '03 Springfield.
The advantage to that is that the .22 practice rifle would have the same balance and feel as it's "big brother".
At any rate don't expect to start out at long distances. Get to a point where you can stay inside of 3" at 100 yards and you can get better and longer range from there.

And once again welcome to TFL! :D
 
Thanx for the offer labgrade. If I ever find the time to travel to Colorado I'll think about it.

As for practice rifle, I'm done with my search for an air rifle. I'm getting a .20 Beeman R9, which is nothing compared to a real rifle, but it's a start and it doesn't get heard by half the town when you shoot it in your backyard ;)

My aim will be to stretch the limit of the gun and shoot beyond the regular 50m limit.

I'll start a thread about that actually so we don't get off topic on this one.
 
evolution of a rifle(wo)man...

I just have this interest, yet the idea of owning a rifle that could shoot up to a kilometer scares me to tell you the truth.
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Wierd feeling, isn't it? I felt the same way I first owned a "military-type" rifle.. a tricked-out SKS. Looked nasty, but kinda a POS, I see in retrospect. But, it worked at the time.

Anyhow, I find rifles, especially the more "people-oriented" kind, be it military-type semis or your..umm.. "long range precision bolt rifle" .. are mentally very much like when you learn to drive. At first, it's scary. How could anyone be trusted with this kind of responsibility? People could get killed if you screw up -- surely no one but trained professionals can handle this kind of thing!

Over time though, as you become more competent, and confident, it becomes normal. You're still aware of the responsibility, certainly, but it's no longer like you're playing with some kind of forbidden fruit -- the mystery of it is gone. Your rifle becomes a tool, no more, no less.

Eventually though,the empowerment of it hits you.. you truly begin to viscerally understand the meaning of the phrase "an unarmed man is a subject, a man with a rifle is a citizen." The rifle in your hands is more than just "metal and wood" as the saying goes.. it is the tool by which a nation won it's freedom, and by which citizens to this day keep it. It is the ability to say "this far, no more" whenever fascism comes again to knock on your door, as it always has. You hear stories of Concord, and of Rosewood, and of the Warsaw Ghetto.. and suddenly you can feel a kinship with that, and a pride. You realize you're free in a way you never knew was possible. Like the bird who never knew he was in a cage until he felt the sky, you suddenly realize what a great gift the Founders left us.

And then you must decide if you will ever, EVER let anyone take that freedom back from you.

Now, there might be a stage after that... but I haven't got to it yet, if there is...

:D

-K
 
Silent Shadow,
What part of Indiana are you in or what school?

I am sure I can set you up to shoot with either myself or with a friend in Indianapolis.

Just let me know. Heck, it won't even cost you anything and I have some interesting things to shoot.

william.t.mcdowell@usa.net
 
Hmm... new to guns. From a foreign country. First gun is... an air-rifle.... where have I heard this story before... Hmmm...

http://www.a-human-right.com/

http://www.a-human-right.com/RKBA/sport.html

The creator of the above website, just happens to be a MODERATOR on this very forum: Oleg Volk.

With any luck you're on your way. All you gotta do is become a US citizen. Now granted that's probably a big decision to be making. And a difficult one at that. But one worth looking at.

-Morgan
 
As far as Italy and rifles, I had some backing-and-forthing over at Varminter.com with an Italian guy who was heavy into varmint hunting, and was reloading a 6.5mm of some sort. He mentioned fairly tight regulations, but no great difficulty in having the rifle or getting reloading supplies.

Art
 
SS - the offer's there if you need it, but seems plenty of help on hand closer to home.

However to clarify - even if you turn up with your own rifle and FAC etc, if unknown to an Estate/ Stalker, he will likely carry the rifle. Sometimes it's estate policy, sometimes the matter is one of earning the respect and trust of the stalker.

Some estates I turn up at insist on carrying the rifle - not taken as an unfair imposition of rules or lack of respect. In fact damn glad of it on some of the climbs!

However, already briefly covered concept of freedom - so can appreciate your concern.
 
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