ChaseReynolds
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I am all about the bayonet lug, however I believe there will be a zombie apocalypse. So the thought of a blade at the end of an AR sounds appealing to me.
The Bayonet Lug - still desireable?
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In the case of the anti-gunners, what they do gets on MY nerves. Therefore, anything to "stick a thumb in their eye" gets a degree of approval from me.
Bushwah! Absolutely false! How else are you going to mount that bayonet, without the lug? Now, whether or not a mounted bayonet has a use for you is a different question.
Look at all the rifles being made today that have bayonet lugs. Are any of them NOT cosmetic copies of military rifles that have bayonet lugs?
While the civilian uses of a mounted bayonet are few, there are a few. Re-enactors want a rifle that looks period correct. So do collectors. The military still wants bayonets, even though they don't train soldiers to use them the way they did in the past. Bayonet tactics have changed. Charging with fixed bayonets is one of the least used tactics in modern warfare. But, its nice to have the option.
Most of the uses for the mounted bayonet today are intimidation more than fighting. Prisoner control is one. A sharp pointy thingy that will hurt (without killing or serious wounds) is a very useful thing in some situations.
I wouldn't buy a rifle because it has a bayonet lug. But I probably wouldn't buy a rifle that was supposed to have one and didn't.
curmudgeon1
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I have a bipod designed to fit my AR-15 bayonet lug, with a quick-disconnect button on it ...... works very nicely.
The bayonet lug may be a useless appendage....but then again it wasn't too long ago that we thought cannons on a fighter plane were obsolete.
for civilians, it may not be an advantage. Although it does give us something else to collect. And they look cool
As for military use, it doesn't really add any weight, and since you need a knife anyway you might as well make it attach to the rifle.
May be one of those things you don't miss until you don't have it when you really need it.
for civilians, it may not be an advantage. Although it does give us something else to collect. And they look cool
As for military use, it doesn't really add any weight, and since you need a knife anyway you might as well make it attach to the rifle.
May be one of those things you don't miss until you don't have it when you really need it.
I don't think I'd ever add the bayonet, but if it is sold with one I certainly want it, I just may never mount it. My sks still has it's bayonet, and I see no purpose in altering the rifle as I like it the way it is. I don't know about you, but the thought of getting stabbed sucks far worse in my mind than getting shot, and I've been stabbed and had a bullet graze. If someone is coming at me with a rifle and deployed bayonet, I am evacuating in my pants.
A bayonet is not a knife, and a knife is not a bayonet.
A knife blade is made of hard brittle steel so that it can take and hold a sharp cutting edge. Try to use a knife to pry something open, say, and it will break.
A bayonet, on the other hand, is made of softer steel that will bend before it breaks, and a proper bayonet is not even shaped to accept a cutting edge. A bayonet is meant to be used as a thrusting weapon, so while it has a reasonably sharp point it does not need or have a cutting edge.
Sticking someone with a bayonet is a decidedly unpleasant experience for the stickee who can be depended on to try to twist and wiggle his way off. A bayonet needs to be somewhat bendable so that it can flex and not just break off.
The only reason that bayonets are made to look like knives is that it warms the heart of the procurement drones in the Pentagon who don't know any better and who's performance appraisals are based on how much money they save.
A knife blade is made of hard brittle steel so that it can take and hold a sharp cutting edge. Try to use a knife to pry something open, say, and it will break.
A bayonet, on the other hand, is made of softer steel that will bend before it breaks, and a proper bayonet is not even shaped to accept a cutting edge. A bayonet is meant to be used as a thrusting weapon, so while it has a reasonably sharp point it does not need or have a cutting edge.
Sticking someone with a bayonet is a decidedly unpleasant experience for the stickee who can be depended on to try to twist and wiggle his way off. A bayonet needs to be somewhat bendable so that it can flex and not just break off.
The only reason that bayonets are made to look like knives is that it warms the heart of the procurement drones in the Pentagon who don't know any better and who's performance appraisals are based on how much money they save.
While other nations have used the spike bayonet, the US went away from it a long time ago. Our bayonets ARE knives, although I will admit that to be the best bayonet possible, they aren't the best knife possible.
When I was in the Army in the 70s, there was a regulation stating that bayonets were NOT to be sharpened. They were to be pointed, but not sharp edged.
Very few troopers failed to violate this reg once the bayonet was issued in the field. It might not take as good an edge as a good knife, but it will take a useful edge.
The spike (or rod) bayonet has its uses, but the knife blade bayonet has more utility. There is a story (possibly false, but a good story, nonetheless) about a proposed spike bayonet being shown to Pres. Roosevelt. T.R. supposedly took one of the Marine's rifles with knife bayonet on it, faced off against the spike, and cut through the spike bayonet, ending the discussion, and the support for the spike bayonet. Now there is a cheif executive!
When I was in the Army in the 70s, there was a regulation stating that bayonets were NOT to be sharpened. They were to be pointed, but not sharp edged.
Very few troopers failed to violate this reg once the bayonet was issued in the field. It might not take as good an edge as a good knife, but it will take a useful edge.
The spike (or rod) bayonet has its uses, but the knife blade bayonet has more utility. There is a story (possibly false, but a good story, nonetheless) about a proposed spike bayonet being shown to Pres. Roosevelt. T.R. supposedly took one of the Marine's rifles with knife bayonet on it, faced off against the spike, and cut through the spike bayonet, ending the discussion, and the support for the spike bayonet. Now there is a cheif executive!
Palmetto-Pride
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Maybe traditionally that was true, but not with the current M9 bayonet/knife.
From Wikipedia
SteelChickenShooter
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Colt M-4 lug
My setup.
Not so attractive. Sort of big or clunky looking.
But that's what I found when looking for one and it works well
My setup.
Not so attractive. Sort of big or clunky looking.
But that's what I found when looking for one and it works well