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The .300 win mag is sufficient for hunt a American bison?
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Brian the gunner
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One question that has nothing to do with the topic:
In the U.S. as normally costs a box of .416 Rigby?
In the U.S. as normally costs a box of .416 Rigby?
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The 300 Magnum needs rather heavy bullets to give the shooter confidence that a good hit in the thorax will reliably down a 2200 lb within a short distance of being hit.
A classic softpoint should weigh at least 250 grains.
A bonded bullet should weigh 225 grains or more
Partition bullets weighing more than about 190 grains should work OK
Lead-Free expanding bullets weighing 168 or more grains should give enough of a wound channel to ensure rapid collapse.
A classic softpoint should weigh at least 250 grains.
A bonded bullet should weigh 225 grains or more
Partition bullets weighing more than about 190 grains should work OK
Lead-Free expanding bullets weighing 168 or more grains should give enough of a wound channel to ensure rapid collapse.
Yeah, sure. So a 45-70 couldn't kill one, right?
ANY 300 Win mag will kill a bison DRT as long as you don't try to gutshoot them. A friend of mine harvested one years ago with a 243 to the ear. Dropped in its tracks. Ranch manager thought it was funny as all get-out, big macho men shooting bison with 60 caliber BP rifles, 458 Win Mags, 375s and such, but the fastest kill he ever saw was that 243.
ANY 300 Win mag will kill a bison DRT as long as you don't try to gutshoot them. A friend of mine harvested one years ago with a 243 to the ear. Dropped in its tracks. Ranch manager thought it was funny as all get-out, big macho men shooting bison with 60 caliber BP rifles, 458 Win Mags, 375s and such, but the fastest kill he ever saw was that 243.
Cape Buffalo aren't all that impressive to look at
I've seen them at a western game park and you can ride in large vehicles to approach them. They seemed smaller than I thought and kind of doughy without any super scary or lean looking musculature to them.
Personal observations aside-they are one of the most dangerous game animals.
They are aggressive, powerful and fast.
A .300 magnum that will be enough for American Bison will not be adequate for Capes.
I've seen them at a western game park and you can ride in large vehicles to approach them. They seemed smaller than I thought and kind of doughy without any super scary or lean looking musculature to them.
Personal observations aside-they are one of the most dangerous game animals.
They are aggressive, powerful and fast.
A .300 magnum that will be enough for American Bison will not be adequate for Capes.
Sure Shot Mc Gee
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IMO: No matter what caliber you decide to buy. Its all about shot placement first and foremost. Why bother with a 300 anything when a 338 Win Mag is much better suited for heavy weight North American {dangerous} game. Don't underestimate the Bison. Their a pretty sturdy package of muscle mass and heavy bone. When you have the chance. Go to a zoo that has North American Bison examples to view. You don't realize how big they are until your up close and facing one. Especially a herd Bull.
Here is a Buffalo hunt with a M94 30-30 and dropped it cold with a shoulder shot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=054zbhXE9ms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=054zbhXE9ms
Here is a Buffalo hunt with a M94 30-30 and dropped it cold with a shoulder shot.
Yep, that was the way they hunted, not so much about what they hunted with. Back up a few hundred yards and shoot the 300 win mag and you still have a 30-30.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9nSqnWuAC4
They don't say what they are shooting, at least I didn't hear it. But they were taking head shots. I was thingking 180 Barnes out of your .300 Win Mag through the lungs and if given the opportunity sending a second one. Looks like they need a front end loader to pick them suckers up.
They don't say what they are shooting, at least I didn't hear it. But they were taking head shots. I was thingking 180 Barnes out of your .300 Win Mag through the lungs and if given the opportunity sending a second one. Looks like they need a front end loader to pick them suckers up.
savagecornmuffin
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Why not a 30-06 with some 200-220 grain loads. Double Tap makes some heavy '06 ammo. Personally, I think 180 grainers will get the job done. 180s and 200s are generating very close to 3000 ft/lbs of energy anyway. The you'll have a rifle that's a bit more pleasant to shoot than the Win Mag. And you'll have a wide range of bullet choices on the store shelves.
Brian the gunner
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Believe that a .308 can take down a bison?
Believe that a .308 can take down a bison?
If a 30-30 can drop one cold, a 308 is a no brainer. A 308 can take any big game in NA.
from savagecornmuffin -- Why not a 30-06 with some 200-220 grain loads. Double Tap makes some heavy '06 ammo. Personally, I think 180 grainers will get the job done. 180s and 200s are generating very close to 3000 ft/lbs of energy anyway. The you'll have a rifle that's a bit more pleasant to shoot than the Win Mag. And you'll have a wide range of bullet choices on the store shelves.
The 180 grain bullet would need to be lead free (TSX, GMX, eTip, etc) in order to to get a good chance of opening the wound channel one would like for a quick take down. One could go as light as 165 gr in this design and probably do OK. A 190 - 200 grain partition or a 220 gr bonded bullet would probably do as well too.