The 25 ACP handgun and self defense – picture

While there are new guns that compete with the 950, does that mean the .25 is less effective than it ever was? I think not.

And there will never be a .380 the size of a Baby Browning or Bernardelli .25.

And then, we have someone who probably has never even shot a .25 telling us that pepper spray is more effective and that a .25 is not even a firearm. :rolleyes: Perhaps if he had a .25 instead of a Kahr .40 he wouldn't have so much trouble hitting what he aims at.
 
I'm most surprised by his findings that most threats cease after being shot at all. I'll have to read this one--this is totally at odds with 'what I've heard' from law enforcement instructors (2 or 3 at most, granted) and their anecdotal (granted) stories. Those stories generally include quite a bit of 'he didn't know he was shot' and 'it is unlikely you or your assailant will know if he is shot'.
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You cannot compare law enforcement stories to person defense statitistics. The are two totally different scenarios.

Law enforcement goes out looking for bad guys, and attempts to capture them and take them into custody. Bad guys don't want to be taken into custody. Bad guys are on defense. Law enforcement is on offense. Bad guys who flee will be pursued, and if they are caught, they will have severe consequences. People on defense have more heart in the fight.

Civilians try to avoid bad guys, and want to be left alone. They are strictly on defense. Bad guys looking for victims are on offense, and strictly by choice. If they flee, or choose not to attack a target, they have lost nothing. They are far less likely to shoot it out to the death for your wallet than they would for their freedom.

When would you fight harder, and when would you flee? Trying to stay out of prison, or trying to steal sombody's wallet?
 
Yes, the 25acp is an anemic cartridge and probably not a good choice for most circumstances.

Yes, the 25acp is lethal and can certainly deter an attacker under many circumstances.

Love my little Beretta 950bs, but I don't carry it.
 
I carried my Beretta 950 on occasion decades ago when concealed carry was a misdemeanor and there were few other options. Today, when I don't want to carry a medium or large frame gun, I'll carry a .380, either my Ruger LCP or Sig P238. The 38s make bigger holes than 25s and bigger really is better. :)
 
Good shooting and if that's what you prefer (25 acp) then that's what you prefer.

Looking at your target, two of those look like they would be directly on the sternum (I'm using my imagination here) and having worked ambulance and rescue and seeing gunshot wounds - at 20 feet I think you'd be surprised at how strong a sternum is. The other shots - I'm guessing lung shots unless you nick an artery. In certain SD situations - a large perp . . especially hopped up on drugs . . . those shots may do nothing but really "p - - s" them off - and I have seen those situations as well.

However, there's nothing to say that there wouldn't e issues with other calibers as well. You can do all the "penetration" tests you want to but until the actual situation arises . . . you don't know "exactly" how shot placement is going to be or what the results will be. One factor that hasn't been included in the shot placement/scenario is your reaction under extreme stress with adrenalin pumping through your system. While I have never (and hope I never do) had a situation where I "shot at" and individual . . . I have been "shot at" and believe me, it screws your system up in a millisecond.

What a person "carries" is up to them and what they are "comfortable" with - if you are comfortable with a 25 acp - then go for it. Personally, I want something on my belt that is going to "do the job" and "put 'em down" if the situation ever arises, especially if I am in fear for my life or for that of another person.

As far as I'm concerned though . . it's "individual preference" and there really is no "right or wrong" . . . only the final results will determine that. And hopefully a person will never have that happen . . . .
 
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