That Grand Garand.....

I am the proud owner of a Springfield M-1 Garand, Mfd. in 1942 ser# range in the 600,000. Excellent(98%) Cond. ALL MATCHING, with correct cartouches on stock.

I Traded a pre-64 Winchester `94 .30-30 (95% cond.) that was my Grandfathers to a guy for this M-1 garand.
BEST DEAL I EVER MADE...

I LOVE MY M-1!

Howard
 
My particular rifle was sent out by Miltech in 1989. It sat unused until I bought it a few months ago. It has the BEST finish I have ever seen on a Garand, and is VERY accurate. The trigger is also way beyond any other I've tried. very smooth, no stacking or binding, no mushiness, etc. Never had a failure of any kind. All internal parts look new. Barrel is bright and shiny. Shoots to the POA with the sights at mechanical zero. It is without a doubt the best Garand I've ever seen. Even better than the Garands I see at gunshows for $2000+
I still can't believe my luck.
 
Art -

Pulling the bolt out of a FAL is very simple and very quick.

1.) Unload the gun. Cock the gun, if it's not already.
2.) Depress the reciever latch, located on the left side of the reciever, directly forward of the stock.
3.) Swing the upper and lower recievers apart, in the manner of a break-open shotgun.
4.) Grab the bolt carrier slide rod (the "rat-tail") and pull the bolt and bolt carrier out to the rear.
5.) If needed, slide the top cover off to the rear.

Five seconds, if you're slow and clumsy. A total field-strip takes only a few seconds more. The FAL is easier to strip and clean than any other semi-auto rifle I've ever laid hand on, including the AR, M-14, Garand, Mini-14, and it's about on par with the AK.

Oh yeah, on topic. My Dad and I are thinking of finishing our own Garand reviever. Anybody have a Garand reciever casting (or forging) they want to get rid of?

Later,
Chris
 
Art, I have to disagree. The FAL is a much easier rifle to clean and disassemble. The Garand is a fine weapon, but there were two superior designs that emerged shortly after the war. The FAL and the AK-47 are both exceptionally easy to maintain and deal with fouling better. In terms of its time, though, there was no equal to the Garand.

Removal of the bolt involves operation of a simple lever. The bolt literally falls out of the weapon if you hold it with the barrel inclined. Heck, this is even simpler than the AK. Removal of the bolt on the Garand is much more in-depth. The AR-15 is horrid from a maintenance standpoint. Disassembly yields no less than 6 separate parts (Charging handle, carrier, bolt, cam pin, firing pin, and firing pin retaining pin) to lose, scatter, and keep track of.
 
I have FAL and M1A (similar in this instance to Garand, I think).

I love them both. Deeply.

True, the FAL's bolt is easy to remove. But it's not as easy to "get at".

With the M1-type, the bolt is on the top where you can get at it. I COULD envision a situation where some crud could get onto the front of the bolt on a FAL and you'd be scrood. There isn't even a forward assist to ram it into place.

With the M1A you can slam/guide a round in. Also, you can get at the bolt with it in the gun, or see what is blocking it. You sort of have access to the bolt, with it in place, from the top, bottom, and even sides to a degree.

I have never had either gun fail; but I don't get my babies dirty to find out.



Battler.
 
RE: en bloc clip

Battler,
You are correct in that the Garand takes an en-bloc clip. My experience with rough environments is only in Saudi Arabia and Iraq and with the M-16 which was a colossal pain in the arse to keep clean. Sand got everywhere. I spent 2 hours each day trying to keep that thing clean, and in two more hours, there would be a fine, chaulky dust all over it again. I would think the Garand to be a superior design for climates such as that.

One must use a certain amount of care to keep the rifle clean in a combat environment. I used a fine meshed pair of black panty-hose to cover my weapon which kept all but the finest of dust out of her. I also carried a high-quality paint-brush and shaving lather brush along and would use it to dust off my weapons' parts. Needless to say, I'm glad I didn't depend on my rifle for anything but shooting up non-living stuff like glass windows and Iraqi equipment.

In that environment, the en-block clip would be an excellent improvement over magazines. The AK 47 may not need this, and in fact the AK might work better with a little grit, but the AK's we played with over there were of the poorest quality, and the ammo they had was pathetic. Some of it we could fire, and see the underpowered bullets (they reloaded their own apparently, and seems like they tried to skimp on powder-- At least that's what I think) actually hit the ground about 75 - 100 yards downrange, and not even cycle the bolt in some cartridges. IMO the magazines would hold dust and grime, and you can't just brush off the rounds like you can with a garand clip, prior to loading. You can shake them out some, but you will still leave a lot of grit behind. Each time you pull the trigger, that grit just rattles loose with the recoil, and has the potential, especially in a weapon as tight as the M16, to cause no end of feeding and functioning problems. Unfortunately, when you really need that thing to go bang, you can't worry about a malfunction.

The en-bloc could be tapped lightly on its base to remove the big stuff, and your handy little paint-brush would remove the small stuff. Then you can load the clip, and should you need to eject a bad clip, you just launch the thing out of the action, insert new clip, and go back to using the weapon. While a huge pain to do this in combat, it's better than having a $400.00 non-functional USGI club to use for a weapon. Not to mention, if the other side is using AK's, which invariably they will be, I'll take the occasional cleaning of clips and the huge difference in MER over a dependable but highly inaccurate, and low powered weapon such as the AK.

The AK design is a good one for its purpose, and for the Eastern bloc countries' doctrines, but I think they entended to lose about 2 or 3 soldiers to our one. The Israeli's came up with the Galil which cured the inaccuracy and underpoweredness of the AK. If I could afford one, that would be the only battle rifle one would ever need. An AK in .308 would be the trump card. Plus the tritium night-sights would be a benefit for low light combat. Unfortunately, the Galil didn't qualify for US funding since it was made in Israel (not the US), so I think it only saw action in limited units in the IDF.

So while the En-Bloc is a magazine of sorts, it isn't. No springs to go soft, easy access to inspect the cartridges, and an open action to make grit removal somewhat easy. The M1 may could benefit from minor design changes to adapt it to modern times, but the weapon's accuracy, knock-down power, dependability, and range are not questioned.
 
Art, that was exactly his point. The reason he lived long enough to write his memoirs was that the other guys in his fire team ran out of chicoms before they ran out of cartridges, while Hack was hurriedly cleaning his Garand. He observes that most unblooded troops don't survive their first big mistake, and that he was damn lucky.

I think the reason for the full field-strip was that he didn't know until later what the cause of the stoppage was. Plus, I suspect that he might have gone into full panic when his rifle jammed, so he wasn't in a state of mind to go thru a diagnostic sequence.

The modern equivalent is "jungle-clipping" wherein two mags are taped together in opposite directions. The mag that's not in the well has the feed end in the ground, just asking for dirt/mud/vegetation to get inside the mag body and jam the follower...

If it weren't for the weight, I've thought the AR system is very amenable to carrying a second bolt/carrier assembly. Lots of other rifles probably are as well, but there's the headspace issue.
 
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