Terrorists attacking a Muslim country...

[mvpel]

The pro-Lebanon rally happened because many Lebanese have lost family over there from Israeli attacks. To them this attack was overkill just because two soldiers were captured by Hezbollah.

And the silence about the indiscriminate attacks by Hizballah on civilian population centers of Israel is deafening. Did you know that a six year old child and his grandmother were killed by a Hizballah rocket? Where's the protest rally for that? And the silence about the failure of Lebanon to disarm Hizballah as agreed six years ago is deafening.

If a band of heavily armed Canadian gangsters from Vancouver barged across the border into Bellingham, killed half a dozen US soldiers and kidnapped two more back to Canada, and the Canadian government refused to do anything about it, and in fact applauded the gang and allowed members of that gang to hold seats in the Canadian Parliament in Ottawa, what do you think the response of the United States would be?

Do you think it would be "proportional?"

 

[Epyon]

DasBoot..

Not really trying to find an excuse more than trying to find a reason why their silence, and in all honesty it does baffle me. However my perspective is only limited as Muslim from Bangladesh not of Arab descent, therefore Middle East issues to me aren't of much significance as it would be to an Arab or Israeli, also factor in that I practice no religion anymore. I guess the reason it sounds like an excuse is because my parents are still Muslim and I want for them to continue succeeding as American citizens without anyone persecuting them because of their religion.

To mvpel, I do see your point. However perpetuating violence is never good for any side. At the same time though, if such a scenario were to happen regardless of where it is, doesn't it to make more sense in attacking that government, and military structures? Why bomb civilan homes just to "make sure"? If these terrorists have government seats, take out their government then, destroy their communications and power lines, and definately destroy any military installations they use. I do understand that collateral damage does happen in any battle, but if your target is nothing but civilians, you are no better than the sucide bomber who blows himself up at a checkpoint, the only difference is you got fancy toys in killing more people.

 

[DasBoot]

I would think that, in light of what is happening in the Muslim world, the responce would come purely out of their sense of humanity, not because they are Muslim!
Sure makes you wonder!

 

[GoSlash27]

As far as the rest, it's people like me, who keep people like you, safe.

You're welcome.

Funny, I don't remember thanking you and I certainly don't remember asking you for your help.
Personally, I'd rather take on the jihadists. The worst they can do is kill me, which is a good deal less likely than getting killed by lightning in my own house.
People like you, OTOH, would be more than happy to destroy everything this country stands for.

I'm going to bow out at this point because I can't really discuss this matter without resorting to some serious profanity.

 

[FirstFreedom]

Amen, goslash. DasBoot and CDH have been gettin' into the koolaid again.... I'm just amazed at the stuff that comes from their keyboards. They just don't "get it". It's NOT about stopping terrorists - it's an excuse to aggrandize their own power (the government / politicians / LEOAs). You said it yourself - the real bad guys are gonna escape the sieve - so if they are, then why the hell are we abandoning the RIGHTS that our country stands for, and that millions DIED for in multiple wars. And doing it voluntarily? To answer your question, hell yes I'm opposed to random bag searches in NYC subways, because we have a right to be free from unreasonable searches & seizures - anything that searches EVERYONE is per se unreasonable - if it's not, then there is no limit to gov't searches, and therefore no meaning to the right in the 4th amendment. Soooo, the point is, if YOU and others like you DON'T agree with that 4th amendment right, and REALLY believe that having essentially unfettered government authority to search people is WORTH IT in the tradeoff to fight terrorism and other crimes.... well you MAY be right - so then please, please:

BY ALL MEANS, GET OFF OF YOUR BUTTS AND WORK TO INTRODUCE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION REPEALING THIS RIGHT!!!!

That's the appropriate remedy; and would bring the proper debate to it's proper place; the U.S. House and Senate. But until you do that, don't be messin with my rights or voting for politicians who would. If you don't agree with that, then you are a complete hypocrite who is no better than the gun banners who want to pass "gun control" without FIRST WORKING TO REPEAL THE SECOND AMENDMENT LIKE THEY SHOULD BE DOING. We are a society of LAWS, and the supreme Law of the land is the Constitution, and we must work within the framework of it, OR work to amend it as is called for in the document itself - the amendment procedure is the appropriate remedy (2/3rds houses of Congress & 3/4ths of the states). Not pass laws that violate it. Not support a president whom legal scholars mostly agree IS unconstitutionally usurping power reserved to Congress with his NSA searches and other POTUS power grabs. If we don't, then we're not a society of laws, and if we're not a society of laws, then we're essentially in anarchy/law of the playground/jungle, which is no way to run a civilization, let alone a democratic republic.

So repeal the 4th, baby - go for it, please!!!!!!!!!! Until then, kindly can it with the Nazi diatribes about curbing RIGHTS being no big deal, please.