ten gun bills introduced today - action item

I posted this in a thread but due to the fact there were already several threads on the topic it was locked. This seems a fitting thread for it and I invite your comments.

1. We gun owners need to be responsible to keep our guns locked up safe when not in use (carry is in use) and out of the hands of the wrong people.
2. If your guns are stolen it needs to be reported immediately after the theft is recognized. All gun owners should have a personal inventory of their guns to include pictures and serial numbers for just such an event.
3. If your gun gets into the wrong hands do to your negligence (ie. Leaving a loaded gun unsecured around untrained children or someone known to be suicidal/homicidal, forgetting a gun on a bench at the range etc) you should be held accountable and be placed on restriction or possibly jail time determined by the courts based on the facts in your individual case.

4. So called straw or straw man buyers (A person who knowingly and willfully purchases a gun for someone who legally can not own a firearm) should serve a minimum of 2 years per gun bought and sold determined by the reason the 2nd party can't buy a gun of their own.
5. If a crime is committed with a gun sold by the straw buyer they should then be sentenced to serve an additional time equal to the perpetrator of any crime committed with that gun when the 2nd party is convicted.

The only form of gun control I will support is one where law abiding citizens take control of their guns.
 
It makes me gringe. None of what you propose will do anything to prevent violent acts by criminals with a firearm.
Violent criminals dont use straw men the either steal them or way more often get them from other criminals whos area of operation is dealing illegally in guns.

With being allowed one round of ammo in a gun already be proposed in Mass and a host of other senseless regs this talk of giving something to get something makes no sense.

If we give an inch they take a mile. Even when we dont give an inch they try to take a mile and have in New York.

Simply put no law or reg will make one whit of difference about stopping violent crime commited with firearms. Period.
All they do is saddle the rest of us with unconstitutional, ignorant, violations of our rights.
And no when our back is finally firmly against the wall there will be those who will rise up and say No further and back it up and those who will sit on the sidelines wringing their hands or just stick them in the air and give up.
 
So called straw or straw man buyers (A person who knowingly and willfully purchases a gun for someone who legally can not own a firearm) should serve a minimum of 2 years per gun bought and sold determined by the reason the 2nd party can't buy a gun of their own.
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That's already federal law. The potential sentence is up to ten years.

Does it ever get enforced? No. As such, the law has no teeth and no deterrence value.

Everything else you're suggesting only punishes the law-abiding.
 
5. If a crime is committed with a gun sold by the straw buyer they should then be sentenced to serve an additional time equal to the perpetrator of any crime committed with that gun when the 2nd party is convicted.
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And this one could be called Conspiracy to Commit...
 
BINGO and mrbatchelor gets it.

Also let's not forget most people already lock their door when the leave the house and every gun owner I know keeps records of their arms already. Also their are already civil liability laws in place as well as reckless endangerment.

I proposed nothing that wasn't already in place except additional time for straw buyers for crimes committed with guns they bought.

The point is we can't give knee jerk reactions. We have to calm down, be rational and not give an inch.
 
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Wow! Sounds like we already have pretty reasonable gun control laws in place doesn't it?
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Yes we do. Just need to enforce the gun laws we currently have to their fullest extent.

The point is we can't give knee jerk reactions. We have to calm down, be rational and not give an inch.
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OEF-Vet,

I hope you don't mind that don't mind that I emboldened "and not give an inch" in your post.

The reason I did this was:

The whole 'sham' the public is being sold by our President as well as the rest of the anti-gun polticians/society in that their AWB's are a solution or in fact, a part of the solution for the problem at hand....problem being...innocent kids being killed in schools.

We can stack gun laws from here to China, we can add to or take away from existing laws, or we can keep them the same...but when it comes to really addressing the issue at hand, which again is keeping our children from being murdered at school, tighter school security along with having armed people in our schools to kill the psycho hopefully before he/she gets started is the only way it will stop.

These attacks are being committed in 'No Gun' areas by psycho's hell bent on killing people that are completely defenseless. The psycho's are mentally deranged but they are smart enough to choose 'No Gun' zones as their targets where they can do the most damage with no resistance. In other words...during one of these school shootings, the psycho is in complete control of the situation and literally has the total control of everyone's lives he comes in contact with during his shooting spree until someone that's armed(usually LE) shows up at the scene.

It just seems so painfully obvious that again, these psycho's are smart enough to choose 'No Gun' zones, which just happen to be schools full of innocent children, that if we instill a program that enables firearms in our schools that this would stop or severely cut down these psycho's 'carte blanche' mindset of going into a school and having a smorgasbord of defenseless victims.

These psycho's are not going into police stations or places where it is known that there will most likely be firearms in which the targeted victims will be armed. Why? Cause their killing spree would be very short lived and they know it.

In short, an AWB of any sort, doctored up , written however and so eloquently sold to the public by this or any other President and his anti-gun cohorts, is simply again a sham to the public and not addressing the issue at hand and this is what we need to remember, first and foremost when the above people are using these tragedies as an excuse to promote their ant-gun agendas. These AWB's will simply make no difference and we can write and stack gun restrictive bills from here to China and they simply will not work.
 
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Just sent 10 separate emails To DC. Also, just got some good news here in NY. NYS Sheriffs Dept came out standing against a whole bunch of of the Govs. latest assault on our gun rights. I'm going to call them tomorrow & thank them.
 
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