Taurus M380 mini Revolver.

igousigloo said:
This revolver would shoot 327 mag., 32 H & R., 32 Long and 32 acp. I have one that has never failed and has a good trigger. Wish I had another.
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I missed this ... and I didn't know the gun will fire .32 ACP. How does that work -- are there moon clips available for it?
 
^^^ +1 Aquila.

Igousigloo: Although firing .32ACP in a .32 H&R Mag revolver isn't necessarily unsafe from a pressure standpoint, the undersized case rims can cause ejection problems. There is a very real risk of bending or breaking the ejector star if it tries to jump over one of the case rims and gets hung up. :(

IMHO using the proper ammo is a better choice; .32 S&W Long isn't much more expensive than .32ACP if you mail order or shop around.
 
Chris... there are 9mm revolvers. Taurus, Ruger, Smith & Wesson and Charter Arms all have made in the past, or still have, production revolvers in 9mm. I have the Taurus 905, and its excellent. It uses moon clips, which I think are a non issue. You dont actually even need to use the moon clips, they only aid in extraction. The gun will fire just fine without them, but the cases can be sticky to eject, as the cartridge has no rim to push upon. If you really want a revolver in a different chambering, consider a 9mm. The ammo is the cheapest centerfire ammo there is, available anywhere ammo is sold, and performance is between .38 Special, and 357 Magnum. Whats the downside? Since you are considering a revolver that uses moon clips anyway, check into the 905. You will be very happy. Forget about that 380. Oh... and as far as that Charter Arms 9mm... I dont even know if they are in production yet. No one has them in stock, and the reviews have said the extractor setup is fragile, and makes loading the cylinder difficult. The Taurus IS available, uses a simple, proven system(moon clip) and is a quality revolver. The 905 is built on the Taurus standard small revolver frame, so all the accessories for those revolvers, will work with the 905. That includes Crimson Trace LaserGrips, Wolff spring kits, aftermarket grips & holsters. The M380 uses a smaller, different frame from all the other Taurus revolvers. I would be careful about that M380, unless you are simply in it for the novelty.
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Thanks for this info Weblance, I will check out the Taurus 905. Sounds like something I'd like to have.

Does S&W still make a 9mm revolver? I'd rather support my American arms manufacturers if possible.
 
For those wishing for an "in-between" revolver, I would suggest finding a good old Smith and Wesson in .32 long. I see them very frequently at gun shows, and in gun shops. It seems there is not a huge demand for them, so the prices are usually surprisingly low.
I still plan to buy one, simply because they are so well made, but SMALL. The double action is the classic smooth-as-glass Smith and Wesson, and they hold 6 rounds.
Since I reload, I would have a ball with it, but even non-reloaders can find ammo for it pretty readily. I think some of the russian/czech/import companies have loads for it.
Worth looking at...
 
Does S&W still make a 9mm revolver? I'd rather support my American arms manufacturers if possible.
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IIRC S&W has not made any 9mm revolvers for about 15 years.

FWIW the two models S&W offered were the Model 940, an all-SS hammerless "Centennial" style 5-shot J frame that used conventional moon clips, and the Model 547, a 6-shot K frame with retracting tabs in the ejector star to eliminate the need for moon clips. Neither model sold particularly well and both are sought-after collector's items now.
 
1987 and 2001 Smith & Wesson was owned by the British engineering company. Taurus is made in the Americas.
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Taurus' semi-autos that I've seen are made in the USA, the revolvers (which is all I'm interested in) I looked at are still made in Brazil. I'm sure the majority of the profits find their way back there too.
 
Charter Arms is a pretty small company (I think they employ about two dozen people). I really don't think they'll take the gamble of designing and producing a .380 revolver from the ground up.
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I just got a reply today from Charter Arms Marketing about my inquiry on producing a .380acp mini revolver.

They said they would consider one for next year.:)
 
I just got a reply today from Charter Arms Marketing about my inquiry on producing a .380acp mini revolver.

They said they would consider one for next year.
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Dont hold your breath. They have been considering a 9mm revolver for many years now. If you really want a 380 revolver, get the Taurus, experiment with the springs and a trigger job, and be happy you have what you want. Waiting for Charter Arms to bring a product to market, can be an exercise in futility.
 
Dont hold your breath. They have been considering a 9mm revolver for many years now. If you really want a 380 revolver, get the Taurus, experiment with the springs and a trigger job, and be happy you have what you want. Waiting for Charter Arms to bring a product to market, can be an exercise in futility.
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They already have a 9mm listed on their website, http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/Charter_Pitbull_79920.asp and I'm not waiting for them to produce a .380acp, but it would be nice if they did.
 
They have had the 9mm revolver listed for a long time. I have been trying to find one for a long time. They simply are not out there... anywhere. If you want something different, I suggest you try the Taurus. They ARE available, and use a proven system for a rimless revolver. There are some issues with the Taurus(heavy trigger on the M380) but it should be easily solved with springs and a fluff and buff.
 
For those of you screaming about a .32 revolver, most of you let one go by without even a nod. Taurus had an M327 revolver in 2" and canceled it last year.
This revolver would shoot 327 mag., 32 H & R., 32 Long and 32 acp. I have one that has never failed and has a good trigger. Wish I had another.
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I have a much better 32, IMO- a S&W 432PD. The only drawback is that it's still the size of a 38 special. Why do I need a gun this big to fire 32acp, and what would be the point?

The appeal of a 32acp or 380acp revolver, with a frame proportional to the size of the cartridge, is that it would be a very small gun. It could be I frame sized or smaller. And several such tiny revolvers were available 100 years ago, but they're somehow impossible to manufacture with today's technology.
 
I'm not sure what the 9mm revolver neato factor is all about, but I would think you'd really have to be obsessed with getting a 9mm wheelgun - just for the sake of having a 9mm wheelgun, to overlook the other issues with this gun.
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How about the fact that you can have ammo that interchanges from Autoloader, to Revolver, to Carbine? How about the fact that 9mm ammo is the cheapest centerfire ammo available? .38 Special is $16/50 for the cheapest I can find. I can get 9mm for $10/50. 9mm out performes 38 special by a good margin.

I dont want to buy the Charter Arms 9mm revolver, but do want to take a look at one, so I can see/understand the extractor. My Taurus 905 is just a great little revolver, so that is what I am staying with. I cant understand, why people cant understand, that the 9mm revolver is a great concept. For those of us that dont reload(me)and must buy factory ammo, the 9mm make perfect sense, from an economical standpoint.

I have a much better 32, IMO- a S&W 432PD. The only drawback is that it's still the size of a 38 special. Why do I need a gun this big to fire 32acp, and what would be the point?
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I see a real advantage for a person, who for whatever reason, is recoil sensitive. I have elderly parents, who could not control the recoil of a 38 special, or of course, anything larger. So what is left, when considering a revolver? 22LR and 22 WMR. A 32 ACP revolver would be nice, because ammo is available, and recoil is reasonable.
 
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I see a real advantage for a person, who for whatever reason, is recoil sensitive. I have elderly parents, who could not control the recoil of a 38 special, or of course, anything larger. So what is left, when considering a revolver? 22LR and 22 WMR. A 32 ACP revolver would be nice, because ammo is available, and recoil is reasonable.


For that purpose, there are guns on larger frames that would do the trick. SP-101 in 32 H&R mag or 327 Federal. The S&W I have. Taurus makes a 327. All of these guns will fire a 32 H&R or 32 S&W long, which are soft recoiling. No need to put a 32 acp in these.

The only advantage of the short little 32 acp cartridge over a 32 SW long or 32 H&R is to shorten the frame.
 
Those of us screaming for a .32 acp revolver want the gun scaled down to the size of the little cartridge.
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+1! If NAA made Black Widow in .32ACP (scaled to the cartridge) I would get one. And no problems with loading/unloading.
 
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