Taurus durability?

I have had a PT-92 - the older one without the decocker - for about 16 years now. Thousands of rounds through it and zero issues. I think it is one of the ones made on the old beretta machinery, and when I bought it new, it actually had a beretta plastic case! I don't know if the gunshop messed up, but I don't think so.

I also this year bought a pt1911 because of the excellent quality I have experienced with my original. Zero problems from it as well, but only about 1k rounds through it.

Maybe I have been lucky, but I think Taurus is about the best value in a handgun from my experience.
madd0c
 
Taurus Pt-92 is the first gun I bought back about 20 years ago. After about 40K rounds it broke the barrel lug. Sent it to Taurus and they fixed it. New barrel and lug. Put another 20K or so through it before selling it. It shot better then than new. A hot 88gr bullet I worked up was amazing accurate.
 
I bought a new Taurus PT-111 PRO last year, based purely on
1-decent reputation (a friend has a flawless PT-111 that is his standard carry choice)
2-feel (It fit my hand better than a Glock 19 or Springfield XD, my 2 main other choices).

My PT-111 was NOT flawless.
It came out of the box and went to the range after a basic cleaning (IAW the manual).
(Using all factory ammo, Remington 124 grain FMJ, Winchester 115 grain FMJ and Federal HydraShok 124 grain HP)

The first range trip included 7 failures in 50 rounds, using only the two supplied factory mags.
The second range trip (after completely stripping, cleaning and re-assembly) was worse, 10 failures in 30 rounds… before I got disgusted and quit.

I own 4 pistols and had never had such a bad a beginning with a new weapon.

I ended up adjusting the trigger / striker safety arm to give an extra ½ mm (or so) of clearance to keep it from rubbing/binding, and I put a thin plastic shim behind the striker spring to keep all the play out of the fore-and-aft travel. (NOTE: I do have precision weapons alignment experience. You might want to get a gunsmith to do this, or send it back to Taurus.)

After these fairly simple adjustments…

The third range trip was a complete success… zero failures with HP HydraShoks or FMJ rounds (I don’t know how many rounds, but I emptied several mags).

So, do I believe my Taurus is now a trustworthy weapon that I would carry? Yes.
But, would I buy another one… probably not.
 
A good friend of mine bought a Taurus with serious issues. Before he could send out an email warning friends and family his brother purchased the same model (they were talking about it a week earlier) 900 miles away. He also had serious issues with his gun. Personally I wouldn't purchase one but there are stories out there about people who love them.
 
Taurus get an undeserving bad mouthing. I have one, it's as good as anything I've ever owned.Barrels are machined from forged stainless steel,Polymar frame is steel reinforced. 80% of the complaints come from newbies who dont know you have to clean the gun before you take it to the range,Being inported it is necessary to protect them as they ride the seas getting here,It took three cleaning to get all the cosmoline out of mine.Leave that crap in there and you will get light strikes on the primer.Since they outsell every maker by far, you will hear many stories, most of them from my brothers uncles mother in law.I look at the fact that they sell 600.000 per year and that 98% are never returned for repairs...Here is mine taking a break from guard duty....
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Bought in 1986 and still going strong (PT99AF):
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And acquired in 1991 and also still going strong (689 6" 357Mag):
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Also had a reliable Model 85 snub in the late '80s but traded it.

Would newer Taurii give the same solid functionality? Dunno.....
 
I have a model 44 6.5 inch barrell stainless and while it doesn't have much through it ?(maybe 150 rounds) it is good as new, accurate, tight, and I wouldn't hesitate to buy another.
 
I am sure you can find many people who miss their Yugo's... and thought they were great cars.
I have seen enough friends who had problems with their Taurus guns to stay away from them. Besides I like to buy American.

Lashlarue -- Where do you get your figures from? If Taurus made 600,000 guns and 2% are returned that means they made 12,000 defective guns. Seems high to me.
 
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I have heard of way to many quality control issues with this company, so much so that i will not buy their product nor defend my life with them...
 
Look at the first post on this page, "a buddy and his brother" no personal experience at all!! Typical of Taurus bashing.

I had a semi auto in the late 90's that I could not get to be reliable, but I recently have become a big Taurus snub nose fan.
 
I currently have two Taurus revolvers ... my steel 85 is the first handgun I ever bought, have had it for 15 years or so, stone reliable, accurate and fun to shoot; it's my car gun. I also have a 617, 7-shot .357 snubbie, and it's been a bit more trouble. When I first shot it, the cylinder froze after about 20 rounds and the trigger felt like it was being dragged through sand. I thought about sending it to Taurus and then said the hell with it and took it to a 'smith. for $85, he opened the cylinder-barrel gap (he said it was way too tight and heat was what was locking the cylinder as it expanded against the barrel). He also turned the trigger into a delight; it is smooth as glass and maybe a pound or two lighter than stock. I love it now, but obviously it should have come from the factory that way. don't think I'd own one of their autos, tho the new .380 is tempting.
 
Look at the first post on this page, "a buddy and his brother" no personal experience at all!! Typical of Taurus bashing.

Ok, I wasn't going to repost this, but I guess I have to, because the Taurus koolaid drinkers think that we're all making crap up.

I purchased a PT-99 new around 1989. It was a very nice looking gun - nickle finish, pretty wood grips, nice decocker, and I was accurate with it - YES, I too once thought this was a great gun.

After only having fired about 500 rounds through it, the locking block shattered, locking the slide, barrle and frame together to where you couldn't rack the slide at all. For the record, I was shooting Fiocchi factory 9mm copper jacketed ammo. Not reloads, not hot loads, just plain-jane factory ammo.

At first I thought that a case was stuck in the barrel. So, not knowing that it was broken, I tried several times to rack the slide. I even tried putting a rod down the barrle and lightly tapping on it to hopefully knock the stuck caseing out. When none of that worked, I took it to a local gunsmith - again, at this point I had no reason to think it needed to be sent back to the factory.

The smith finally got the gun apart. In the process of doing this, the soft rails on the aluminum frame became gouged by the broken schards of locking block. (Many years later Taurus actually anounced that the "fix" for a broken locking block was to cut the barrel to get the gun dissasembled - but this wasn't generally known at this time)

After the gun was apart, the smith saw what happened, was able to fix the soft rails to a point where they worked. The first two locking blocks that he ordered from Taurus were so out of spec that he didn't even want to attempt to fit it. The thrid one he got was really rough, but he got it to fit. He showed me two of the locking blocks. They were very rough, sloppily cast parts - they didn't even look like the original locking block.

After 6 months of farting around with this POS gun it was shootable. I promptly traded it and a wad of cash for a Smith 659. 20 years and thousands of rounds later, I still have that Smith 659 which has never needed one thing fixed or replaced.

I've followed the PT-99, PT-92 and Beretta 92 for years to see if what I experienced was just a fluke or if there was a design problem with the locking block. Well, after reading many stories of this same thing happening to others, and recommendations from the factory(ies) that the locking block should be examined for cracks after every couple thousand rounds, I discovered that this was a rather common problem. I believe that Beretta has since re-designed their locking blocks several years ago. I don't know about Taurus.

BUYER BE WARE!
 
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98% are never returned for repairs

75% of the ones I Owned were sent in for repairs (3 out of 4). That is why nothing with the name of Taurus on it (nor the companies they own like Rossi) will ever get any or my money ever again.
 
Skans,
I am just recently getting to where I like some Taurus revolvers, I am not drinking their koolaid. However, if you put stock into a "my mothers brothers sisters cousins" kind of story, you make me wonder!
And I even told my not so good experience about Taurus to be fair!
 
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Okay. Not only was the story second hand at first, but there are many many PT92/99 success stories here,at the Taurus forum, at The High Road, and other gun forums.

Mas Ayoob,Chuck Karwan and a goodly number of their kind,been there done that, and more qualified than anyone to comment on guns, recommend Taurus at times. The PT92/99 series is one of them.

The PT92 is still in production and in use all over the world.

So give me the definitive data that all PT92/99s are a train wreck.

I can go the other way of need be and bring in the posts from the knowledgable people/writers/instructors or from other showing this to be true, that PT99s work.

I do find it funny that an uncredible second hand story is used first and then we're supposed to believe the second story as well.

Second of all we do not drink the Kool-aid. That's the troll's job.

You just went and claimed that anyone who owns a Taurus is some kind of moron or worse. Not a smart thing to do, but when others have no hat to hang with facts, then they go and trash the people.

Read all of the below links to the very end since you're in for trashing the people who own Taurus and the brand.
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=23177.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=8478.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=1814.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=20247.msg270749#msg270749

http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=22006.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=22385.0

For those who appreciate nice good looking guns that work well and have proved to there is this.
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=2155.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=6329.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=29220.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=6938.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=4786.0

As for further evidence there are these.
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=22756.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=20422.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=1257.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=20731.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=22439.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=9189.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=30140.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=8532.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=2949.0
 
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These are from here. Pay attention to the real owners. Note the so called "witty repartee" by those who know not of what they speak. No evidence, no facts, but plenty of sass. Also plenty of getting caught with telling lies by the anti- Taurus crowd. There are discredited people in here who changed the their story or got caught.
Pay attention to JR47's take on things.

http://www.thefiringline.com/showthread.php?t=231527
http://www.thefiringline.com/showthread.php?t=250771
http://www.thefiringline.com/showthread.php?t=248950
http://www.thefiringline.com/showthread.php?t=251264
http://www.thefiringline.com/showthread.php?t=254264
http://www.thefiringline.com/showthread.php?t=201102

As for the PT92 goes and it is a success.
http://www.thefiringline.com/showthread.php?t=244020
http://www.thefiringline.com.showthread.php?t=243398
http://www.thefiringline.com/showthread.php?t=232865
 
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