Taurus (better these days?)

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SteelToe

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Okay guys. I am getting really interested in a nice revolver for concealed carry. I think I am going with the taurus 7shot 357 titanium. I held one in a local store and it is $588 out the door. It is SUPER lite and nice feeling. I like the price tag. And I feel secure having a life time warranty.

The only thing I noticed is that the trigger pull is EXTREAMLY heavy. They told me this is for liability or something. (I Am in CA by the way)

Do Taurus have a reputation for misfiring? I do not reload and would use factory loads. If the only downfal to this model is the heavy trigger pull I could mod that myself right? Or have it modded. Anyway please let me know your thoughts.

On a side note I know one of the Taurus Auto loaders won 2005 NRA gun of the year recently. Wouldn't they have to put out good products now to have a lifetime warranty? That is unheard of.

Thanks much!
 
All Smith & Wesson handguns also come with a lifetime warranty, and you can buy a nice 7-shot .357 Magnum 686P for the same price or less (maybe $525). It'll be steel, but that has some advantages in controlled followup shots. The 4" that I just bought weighs 38.5 oz. That's more than the 24.3oz of the 4" Titanium Tracker, but is not onorous to my taste. Personally, I feel more comfortable with the Smith.
 
i have had a few taurus revolvers and all of them have had problems, ranging from ignorable to serious. if you want a small and light revolver go with a S&W 342 or 642.
 
I imagine the liability part is in case of a shooting and the subsequent trial, that it could not be called a "hair trigger". I feel that in a self defense situation a heavy trigger pull is of little circumstance. I don't think anybody would have a problem pulling the trigger in a defense situation even if it were 10# with all the adrenaline pumping.

That being said I have a Taurus M44 6 1/2" SS and love it. The DA pull is heavy but at the range I almost always fire single action unless I am shooting plates. I practice rapid fire with it just in case I need it and do pretty well, although a snubbie is a different story. I am planning on getting a Taurus hammerless .357 snub next as my pocket gun.
 
I am usually a Taurus fan but, in the last couple of months, they have been poor in every area of fit, finish and quality. Buy something else.
 
Smith N' Wesson vs. Taurus

With the condition of both firearms being equal, I would NEVER buy a
Taurus, when I could buy a Smith at or near the same price. :cool: :D

Best Wishes,
 
hmmm

I looked at the smith and wesson web site and the 7-shot .357 Magnum 686P snub nose is almost $700 estimated retail. I am going to call my local gun shop and see what they can order one for. Thanks for the tip!

If I can get a S&W for at or around the same price, same snub nose specs, same calubur, round capacity, AND lifetime warranty ofcorse I would get the S&W. :)
 
7-shot snubbie in .357. The 617, right? I own a 617S I bought about 5 years ago. Yes it has a heavy DA trigger. That said it's accurate and I've never had a misfire. The worst thing I can say about it is that the screw that holds the yoke in backed out. This is a common problem with smaller revolvers in magnum calibers. I called Taurus and they mailed me a new screw.
 
Taurus VS Colt Cobra

Another thought.

If you want a light snubby that will hold it's value, (and possibly increase) buy yourself a late series Colt Cobra.

There are still nib Cobra's available (check Gunsamerica.com), and the price for one will probably be less than what you would have to pay for the Taurus. You will wind up with a quality revolver, and the bluing on it will be fantastic. The Cobra will hold 6 rounds, and have a reputation for being quite accurate.

You will wind up owning what is considered by many to be the high water mark for American snubbies, and I think you will be very surprised at the nice trigger action.

I have two older Cobra's, and one newer Detective Special. One of the Cobra's is my wifes choice of firearm for personal carry, or vehicle gun, the other is mine. The Detective Special serves stashed in the kitchen, right where my little bride can access it should unwelcome guests drop in unannounced..

Trouble with the old Colts, they are like the potato chip commercial.. "You can't have just one". They grow on you.


Check 'em out.

Best Wishes.
JP :D
 
My only experience with Taurus revos was a model 94 (4" blue, 9-shot .22) That .22 had a great finish and wonderful SA trigger but I could never get the DA pull to get friendly. Tons of dry firing, real shooting and even sent it back to them. (Got it back very quickly, to their credit, but no perceivable improvement.) I ended up trading it away. (I don't know if the internals are different for their centerfire guns?)
 
The anticipated costs of a lifetime warranty offered by any manufacturer (who plans to stay in business) is already factored into the price. The warranty is only as good as the company behind it, and to me is not as important as the quality of the product itself in the first place.

As far as "Gun of the Year" awards by the NRA are concerned, to me, they are meaningless. For advertising departments, they are quite meaningful.
This is NOT intended as an NRA bash (I've been a member for years and will continue to renew my membership). It is just that as a practical matter, what is best for me may not be for you and vice-versa.
 
interesting

I called my local store and they said that the 357 Magnum 686P Smith and Wesson would indeed be near the $700 mark with background check, registration, and taxes. I see them all over gunsamerica.com though for around $499. This is new in box from what I assume to be gun stores. Anything I should know before making a purchase like this online?

Thanks all!
 
update

My local store said around $700. Okay so I found it online new in box for $499. I found out that to ship to CA they requir overnight shipping wich upps s&h from the stated $10 to around $40. AND the local store charges $75 for this type of transfer. I am so sick of CA. I give up on this peice of **** liberal state. It is in the ****ter. Lets give the peice of **** back to Mexico and be done with it!
 
Steeltoe

I think that dealer is out of line on the price. The convention at the store at S&W headquarters is 80% of retail price ($560 on a $700 gun). I just bought a 4" 686P new in box from a busy gunshop in MA for less though - $529.95.

To buy over the internet, you will still need to find some local licensed firearms dealer to serve as the middleman. They will add some processing costs ($25-$50), and there will be shipping costs from the seller ($15-$40). I'd look into both of those, and then figure your end cost. As to choosing a seller - I'd try to find one who seems to do a lot of them - I think quality of merchant will be a little less variable in that case.

On gunbroker.com at least, they have a facility for buyers to register feedback on sellers, which you can view on a prospective seller (it's near the bottom of each auction on the right). I like that - you can see the summary statistics at top (now many positive/neutral/negative) as well as read comments below. I think gunsamerica might have something similar if you pay to register.

One last thing you can do, is if you have other dealers that you'd be willing to drive to - you could always present them with your end cost figured above and see if they will match it.
 
I have a Taurus 605 .357 and love it. Never had a problem with factory ammo.

I understand the whole liablity and "hair trigger" issue. The company does not want to be held responsible for their guns having a "hair trigger".

If you are that sick of Kalifornia, try Michigan. We have great hunting, pretty scenery, unpredictabe weather, and anywhere from 6 inches to 6 feet of snow in the winter. To get a handgun, we just go to the local PD, pay $5 for a purchase permit and we're done. If we have a CCW license, we don't even need the purchase permit.
 
Steeltoe If you are looking at the 617 in titanium I am really suprized at the price around here they go for $440 (Able Ammo lists it at $463). If this is the gun you are looking for it should weight 19.9 ounces and be 6 5/8 inches long and 5.10 inches high. The closest Smith and Wesson firearms are; 386PD (able ammo price $692) at 17.5 ounces 7.5 inches long and unknown height, I do believe that the height is greater than that of the Taurus (maybe someone else can advise) due to the larger frame size. The 686P (able ammo price $ 549) which also carries 7 rounds looks to have the same dimension however has a weight of 34.5 ounces. These may be things you want to consider when looking at a conceald carry firearm.
 
A titanium gun of any manufacture might be hard to shoot accurately. Personally, I'd put up with a little more weight if the tradeoff was better shootability. My dad has a Taurus Model 66 .357 and hasn't had any trouble with it. You may also consider a Ruger although they are heavier. As to the whole 7-shot thing, 8,7,6,or even 5 shots is plenty in my estimation. If you need more than a few shots you're either fending off screaming hoardes or you're a poor shot. In neither case will a higher capacity handgun save you.
 
As far as a "hair trigger" is concerned, I would hardly call any DA pull a hair trigger.. SA out of a wheel gun or a semi auto, perhaps (sometimes). Anyone that needs to use a wheel gun in SA mode for defence is asking for trouble, and most likely shooting at too great a distance to really call it self defence!
At 5 yrds (15'), at 10yrds(30') you could make a point for self defence.. At 15yrds(45') to 25yrds plus(75'+) any SD argument will be tough to sell.. If you used SA at any of the distances a smart lawyer will argue that you had time to get "out of harms" way and didn't need to kill the little creep!
At 0 to 10yrds, I don't care if my DA pull is 12lbs or 8lbs (8lbs would be nice) I'll practice with it untill SA is just not needed in my carry piece.
 
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