Taurus 709 vs ?

Save yourself money and go with a Ruger or a Smith. While you may pay a little more up front, you will likely save yourself money long term for all the reasons listed above and you will get a better gun.
 
The Taurus-Rossi operation is an ISO-9001 company. Name me any US company that is 9001 in the firearms business. They built firearms under license from Beretta in the past. Too many internet quality control experts on here.
 
RugerNo3 said:
The Taurus-Rossi operation is an ISO-9001 company. Name me any US company that is 9001 in the firearms business. They built firearms under license from Beretta in the past. Too many internet quality control experts on here.
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I guess the three Tauri I have used which had major parts breakages or unfixable failures must have missed the vaunted ISO-9001 quality guarantee.

Also, ISO 9001 is zero guarantee of quality. It's a management system. It guarantees repeatable, measurable processes. That's all. Those processes might produce junk.
 
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As noted, ISO 9001 certification means nothing. A company can make concrete life preservers and meet ISO 9001. It just means, again as noted, that your processes are documented, it doesn't mean the processes are good.
 
LB and SM beat me to it. Someone touting ISO 9001 certification as proof of the high quality of a company's products is someone easily duped by that company's advertising gimmickry. It signals nothing in that regard.

By the way, many other gun companies are in fact ISO 9001 certified -- even Kel-Tec.
 
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