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Reeder is trying to reduce recoil, while maintaining the same velocity levels. Use a bigger case, lower pressure, same ballistics, less recoil.
As for your penetration results, where do you get the 420s penetrate less then 360's?
While not the worlds greatest test results, this does kind of correlate with game observations:
http://www.handloads.com/misc/linebaugh.penetration.tests.asp
I'd take an average of so of the different results for caliber. One 475 load, the 430, goes 60 inches.
If you take a look at the effect of bullet weight in penetration, the best example is the .500, where increased bullet weight leads to 40 inch, to 60 inch penetration, and, they don't even go to the 525's I use in 510 Maximum.
I can also post pictures of bullets, and asian buffalo, and bison, taken with these heavy bullets, and the results of these bullets.
you might start here,
http://www.buffalobore.com/hunts/Default.htm
And look at the size of the buffalo taken by Mike Gibboney, with the 440 grain, 500 caliber JRH. One bullet, full penetration, the other recovered under the skin, on the off side...etc.
In all fairness, a LOT of the pictures on that page are from a gunsmith, Jack Huntington, that I know and respect. He's used, as you can see, heavy 45 colt/454 ammunition, and, he's used 475, and 500's. His observations are the 500's, even at moderate velocity, simply whack stuff harder, and more effectively, then the 45's, and, he's shot a lot of game, with both. That is NOT to say the 454 isn't effective, just that the increase in bullet weight, and diameter, makes the bigger calibers MORE effective.
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PS
For a VERY long time, I was of the same opinion, that the 45/454 is about 98% of what you need. Since buying a 475, and 500, I've had my eyes opened a bit, as to the effect of heavy for caliber bullets, in actual hunting situations...
Reeder is trying to reduce recoil, while maintaining the same velocity levels. Use a bigger case, lower pressure, same ballistics, less recoil.
As for your penetration results, where do you get the 420s penetrate less then 360's?
While not the worlds greatest test results, this does kind of correlate with game observations:
http://www.handloads.com/misc/linebaugh.penetration.tests.asp
I'd take an average of so of the different results for caliber. One 475 load, the 430, goes 60 inches.
If you take a look at the effect of bullet weight in penetration, the best example is the .500, where increased bullet weight leads to 40 inch, to 60 inch penetration, and, they don't even go to the 525's I use in 510 Maximum.
I can also post pictures of bullets, and asian buffalo, and bison, taken with these heavy bullets, and the results of these bullets.
you might start here,
http://www.buffalobore.com/hunts/Default.htm
And look at the size of the buffalo taken by Mike Gibboney, with the 440 grain, 500 caliber JRH. One bullet, full penetration, the other recovered under the skin, on the off side...etc.
In all fairness, a LOT of the pictures on that page are from a gunsmith, Jack Huntington, that I know and respect. He's used, as you can see, heavy 45 colt/454 ammunition, and, he's used 475, and 500's. His observations are the 500's, even at moderate velocity, simply whack stuff harder, and more effectively, then the 45's, and, he's shot a lot of game, with both. That is NOT to say the 454 isn't effective, just that the increase in bullet weight, and diameter, makes the bigger calibers MORE effective.
s
PS
For a VERY long time, I was of the same opinion, that the 45/454 is about 98% of what you need. Since buying a 475, and 500, I've had my eyes opened a bit, as to the effect of heavy for caliber bullets, in actual hunting situations...
