Tasco SS w/side Paralax or Springfield Govt. Mdl?

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savagehunter308

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i am going to purchase a Savage Short Action Police model in .308. I am contimplating wether to get the Tasco SS with the side paralax or to get the Springfield Armory 4-14x56 II Generation Govt. model. i have heard some bad things about the SS and some good things. if anyone has an SS or a Springfield please let me know how they have performed for you. i have also looked at the Tasco Tactical/Long Range scope with side parralax. is that any good? please email with the response this. thanks:confused:
 
The 10x42SSM may have been discontinued and I don't see SWFA advertising it any more. Problem is that the focus changes on it and per one of our members here at TFL, Tasco admitted that when Leupold Mark IV rings are used and are tightly clamped near the turrets, the problem appears. The regular 10x42SS is suppose to be more reliable.
 
First, how much money are you looking at spending? And are you set on those two scopes?

Here are some personal observations on both. I had two Tascos. Had being the key word. One, a 16x wouldn't hold a zero and was all over. The second, a M model that you are looking at, worked ok but I returned it because I didn't want to wait for it to have problems too. If TShoes reads this he will tell you about his 3 Tascos that all died, some within a few rounds. Personally I wouldn't recommend them.

As far as the Springfields, I saw my friends adjustable objective loosen up(not just unscrew but you were able to tilt it up and down) and throw shots everywhere. I've heard many other horror stories about their scopes also with the level moving around in the scope. Not much quality control. Also just on the scope itself, I hate the 56mm objective. it causes you to have to use either high or extra high ring, depending on your rife, which screws with your stock weld. Also their so called ranging reticle is to crowded for me. Yoo much crap in your line of sight. A good mil dot will do the same and also help with leads and hold overs and doesn't clutter.

You should check out the Leupold section at SWFA. under the Tacticals you can get a 4.5-14 with target knobs for a little more than the Springfield. They make a great product and have great service. You can also get different reticles put in late if you don't have the extra for the mildot now. And just for the smart a**es out there, I don't own stock in Leupold or work for them. I just know a quality product when I see and USE it.
 
A friend of mine has a Tasco SS 10x42 with rear mounted parallax adjustment on his 700Police. I have played around with it and one thing I HATE is the feel of the turrets. They do not have a audible click, and feel VERY mushy. If you turn them back and forth several times fast they feel a little better, but then after a half hour or so they are mush again, Yech!. Otherwise i havent seen any problems with it losing zero or anything. The optics do seem very clear, and overall quality feels good. Another scope you may want to look at is the Nikon Monarch 6.5-20x44. About the same price as the Tasco side focus, with very clear optics and nice clicky knobs.

I also agree with Rob01 on the idea of the Leupold. After playing with my friends Tasco I decided to put the Leupold 4.5-14x40 Tactical with mil-dot on my 700Police. The quality and feel of the knobs (as well as the rest of the scope) just seems infinately better to me. You can find one with or without mildots for $551 and $481 respectively here:

http://www.lockstock.com

As far as the Springfield goes, I havent used one but the pictures of the reticle just look WAY too cluttered to me.

Good Luck
 
Ditto's with Rob01

Earlier models of the trashco's were a LOT better scopes......
Not now, I AM the guy, who alerted Tasco to the MK4 ring situation.......but, that problem is just a symptom........
My suggestion, is to get NEITHER.
Thay are BOTH sub standard, and aren't getting any better...until they DO......spend your bucks elsewhere........
You'll be much the happier for it.
Been there done that.:barf:
 
i am looking on spending aound $450 + or -. I just want a good qualty scope with either Mildot or something along the lines of Govt. model. i know that leupold is a good scope but i have heard that they are very overpriced. and i agree with that guy that said tascos arent made by tasco they are imported. if tasco bought leupold and stamped tasco on them u guys would still bag on them. is there anyother brand besides leupold taht is a good scope? this is way more confusing then i ever thought buying a scope in the $500 price range would be. thanks:confused:
 
if i buy the tasco SS w/side paralax, and i dont use the leupold rings, will that problem occur? maybe it is b/c the scope is supposed to be light, it is aluminum. it is not supposed to be crunched.
 
Savagehunter, Leupolds in my opinion are not overpriced. You can buy one of them for about $550 and be happy a lifetime or keep buying junk and watch the totals rise. As far as bashing it just because it says Tasco thats BS. I gave them a chance, actually two and TShoes gave them more than that. But when you have a product crap out on you it's not bashing to talk bad about it, it's a review. Learn from our mistakes.

As far as the Mark 4 rings being hard on the Tascos because the Tasco's tube is aluminum, most scopes are aluminum. All Leupolds are aluminum including their Mark 4 model scopes which are tough as nails. It's the workmanship. Maybe a different ring won't hurt it but do you really want a scope that you have to try different rings on so it doesn't break? I've replaced both my Tascos with Leupolds and I'm not looking back. They are great scopes. You will get people that bag on the price and yes they aren't cheap but the quality and workmanship isn't cheap either. Being cheap shouldn't be a reason to buy a scope.

Savagehunter you made this post to get info on those scopes. Listen to what people are telling you. If you want to not buy Leupold because people say they are too expensive then don't but don't by Tasco or Springfield either because you'll end up buying another scope. Look back up at NYRSCCA's post, he gives some good advice.
 
Re the rings, I heard that the side focus places the focus lens right near the turret, the ring causes the focus to bind.

THe rear focus does not have this problem.
 
I went to
http://www.bearbasin.com

Picked up a Leupold Var-X 3.5-10X40 Tac for my 700VS for $430.00, I think. Lovin' every minute of it. It's a good scope, and the higher ele/wind knobs are sweet!

I.E. another vote for Leupold. Of course, if money's no object, the 10X Unertl at U.S. Optics would be cool, too.
 
thanks guys, i looked at Bear Basin, they have great prices, and they are having some sort of shipping deal. i decided i am gonna go with the Leupold Vari-XIII Tactical 4.5-14X 40mm Matte Mil Dot (AO) for $589. i lett u know how it works out.
:)
 
You might try one of the IOR-Valdada scopes. All of them are etched-reticle, 1/2MOA clicks, very heavy duty, and quite a bit cheaper that a comparable Leupold. They use a variation of a Mil-Dot reticle that seems quite well laid out.

www.valdada.com

- Chris
 
your right the valdala is a couplke bucks cheaper but i am gonna trust these guys, they are smart and have leupolds. those reticles are very interesting on the tacticals at valdala.
 
Lots of time..............

NOT, Savagehunter..............
I have very little, I choose to spend a LOT of my free time, watching the forums, and trying to help Newbies out, and to try and keep them from making the SAME mistakes I did, a lot of money was wasted, and a lot of time.

If after 2 posts, from 2 different folks, with a total of 5 scopes, and ALL turned to s***....and you continue to argue, be my guest, some folks will NOT learn from others mistakes...so go waste your time, and money.

Rob, and I aren't on here to win a popularity contest.......

5 out of 5, from 2 strangers to each other.......should give even the CLUELESS a major clue.

Stick a fork in me, I am done on this topic.:rolleyes:
 
i was not trying to insult u, i was trying to say thank you for help people, lots of times. i guess you are to sensitive i have an od sense of being. i am sorry if u took it the wrong way :D
 
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