Tamara asks controversial question...

Carbine or Scout Rifle

Doc Hudson: Yes, you are certainly correct about necking-up the 308 to 358. The real problem is that the 308 is a very fine shooter. Maybe I'll find another Remington M600 and convert it - but prices have gone up.

Considering I purchased my Remington M600 for $ 150.00 over 20 years ago and the discussion here is about converting a cheap surplus military rifle into a carbine - scout rifle, I fail to see the need for a Gibbs Extreme Jungle Carbine that shoots 6 inch groups. Even a POS rated surplus rifle would cost more than my M600.

Gibbs also makes a .45-70 Enfield conversion but the rifle is not strong enough to fully explore the potential of that cartridge. That brings up the real issue in playing with these old military surplus rifles. Folks better exercise extreme care or they may be eating their "scout rifle".

In reference to your friend John Killebrew, the name in familiar but I don't recall meeting him. Since we both live in the "circle city" I'll probably run up on him someday.
 
heres my 2cents worth.

I have most of the millsurp's listed here and of the bunch there is little diff for accuracy when I shoot them but the FR-8 is in a more easyly found cartridge (.308 Nato) but if you want the best of the bunch my vote would go in this order 1. Sweede 1894 or 1938 <$250
2. Mosin-Nagant 1891-38 / 1891-44 /1891-59 < $125
3. FR-8 < $250
4. Enfield No5 in 303. < $225
5. French MAS-36 in 7.5 french if you relode or .308
if you don't < $150

but for max shoulder massage go with a Styre M-95 in 8x56R

Try looking over at http://www.mosin-nagant.net for more info
on the MN's
 
Tamara

Your idea of a collection of WW 2 bolt action rifles sounds like it would provide you with a great deal of fun, but expand your idea a little and pick up an M1 Garand and an M1 Caebine if you can. Not only are they the great American shoulder arms of WW 2, but they are a great deal of fun to shoot!
 
Oh, I truly enjoy shooting both Garands and M1 carbines. The problem is that all these neato surplus bolt guns are so cheap that they make it hard to save up enough cash for the mighty M1 Garand... ;)
 
I have an FR-8 (my only .308, actually). All research from knowledgeable sources indicates it is more than capable of handling 7.62x51mm/.308. Expect a lot of blast and recoil- I would invite you to shoot mine, Tamara, but I see you've already got your toy. I have considered getting George Stringer to "Scouterize" mine, but I think that maybe I'll just have him install "scout" sights and a light...and maybe install a new trigger...and maybe...
 
Last gun show I went to I saw what looked like a NEW Polish m-44 carbine (w/bayonet). Wood was blond and smooth, but not laquered. Wieght was hefty for a carbine and the bolt locked up solidly> i'd get one of those and ditch the bayonet.

And after all Tamara, the Moisin-Nagants were fired in anger by Russian women and partisans during ww2.. might be a neat point of history with such a rifle.
 
If it doesn't have to be military,
Ruger makes a 20" barrel version of the
77 with a wooden forend that goes clear
out to the end of the barrel.

It's called the RSI or international model,
and is, to me, a beautiful weapon.

My local store has one in 30.06, and
I think they make it several lighter
calibers as well.
 
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