tactical shotguns
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, any thoughts?IZinterrogator
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Benelli M4, you can add all kinds of rails, lights, and other stuff without risking a jam due to the gas system instead of the inertia system.
oneounceload
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Is there a reason why you feel the need to be able do so ?
Personally, I have never had the need - perhaps you can provide some personal experience where this was necessary.................
THERE IS NO SUCH A DANG THING AS A *TACTICAL* SHOTGUN!!!
Tactics are a mindset. The mindset of a person who has decided to employ strategy in his routine.
So since I carefully roll a short strip of toilet paper around my hand to form a square, wipe, fold into a triangle so I can wipe again then a third time, I am now using "Tactical toilet paper"?
http://thefiringline.com/forums/search.php?searchid=4935170
The above is results of using "tactical" as the only key word in an advanced search of titles in the shotgun section alone. My 18 inch barreled 20 gauge mossberg 500 is my only HD gun, my only hunting centerfire weapon and my fun toy too...
It isn't very "tactical" for clay sports or wing shooting though....
Brent
Tactics are a mindset. The mindset of a person who has decided to employ strategy in his routine.
So since I carefully roll a short strip of toilet paper around my hand to form a square, wipe, fold into a triangle so I can wipe again then a third time, I am now using "Tactical toilet paper"?
http://thefiringline.com/forums/search.php?searchid=4935170
The above is results of using "tactical" as the only key word in an advanced search of titles in the shotgun section alone. My 18 inch barreled 20 gauge mossberg 500 is my only HD gun, my only hunting centerfire weapon and my fun toy too...
It isn't very "tactical" for clay sports or wing shooting though....
Brent
pistolerokid
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tactical shotgun
I would voice a second for the benelli m4. very rugged, well built. of the various defensive style shotguns that I own, this i would consider to be my best and most reliable. They have a unique gas operated system to my knowledge is only on the m-4. not on any other model. I suspect you will see some copycats coming out in the next few years. The U.S. Marines are using these in Iraq and Afganistan. Mine is in the desert camo. just for the reason that I wanted a change of color. All my others are black. I thought at first it might be a little bright in the evening hours and in moon light. It is not. I also do a lot of bird hunting in the dakotas and this color pattern works well with the native prarie grasses in the fall. It came with a 20" barrel but I will be contacting benelli to see if I can get a longer barrel also in the same cammo pattern. One that will be a more suitable for phesants. Duel useage.
I would voice a second for the benelli m4. very rugged, well built. of the various defensive style shotguns that I own, this i would consider to be my best and most reliable. They have a unique gas operated system to my knowledge is only on the m-4. not on any other model. I suspect you will see some copycats coming out in the next few years. The U.S. Marines are using these in Iraq and Afganistan. Mine is in the desert camo. just for the reason that I wanted a change of color. All my others are black. I thought at first it might be a little bright in the evening hours and in moon light. It is not. I also do a lot of bird hunting in the dakotas and this color pattern works well with the native prarie grasses in the fall. It came with a 20" barrel but I will be contacting benelli to see if I can get a longer barrel also in the same cammo pattern. One that will be a more suitable for phesants. Duel useage.
Seems like a reasonably good way to distinguish a hunting shotgun from one set up for SD or LE.
If there's no Tactical Shotgun, then is there a tactical pistol? Knife?
Perhaps a Tactical firearm is one better designed to facilitate the employment of the tactical mindset. You happen to own a hunting and tactical shotgun all in one--which isn't surprising given your skill at perfecting the deployment of toilet paper into a fine tactical art.
No. That is correct!!!
Every shotgun is just a dern shotgun... If intended to be strictly for HD than call a spade a shovel and refer to it as a home defense shotgun... If it is intended to be a hunting shotgun than it is a "field gun" if it is for both than call it a utility gun.
But IMNSHO, tactical is an offensive slur just as "assault" or "evil black" rifle...
But that is just me... maybe I am just gettin' old and crotchety.
Brent
TheKlawMan
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To me a Home Defense shotgun is one designed for best use for that purpose whereas a Tactical Shotgun is designed for battle, which may include home defense but may also incude offensive operatiions. Hence the HD shotgun is often a cyllinder bore, while the tactical may have a fixed modified bore so as to enable a tighter pattern at longer distances. It may also have more accurate sights and a breecher barrel or choke and it will often have an extended magazine and perhaps someting to hang additional shells on. The HD gun is ofen kept to a bare minimum as far as accessories so as to best enable use in close quarters.
NightSleeper
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I'm with you on that. I have a Benelli Nova with ghost ring sights and an extended mag.
All it takes is a can of flat black spray paint then voila it is tactical
why I seen horses tactical... cats, even a gun. But you must wear them black pants that have huge pockets, some black face paint and a gilly suit made from local vegetation.........Too much work for me, I will just use the 1300 I hunt with, I must be lazy...
Guess I'll have to contact Wilson Combat and tell them to redesign their catalog. Tactical Shotguns, Tactical Rifles, Tactical Assault and Tactical Paddle holsters, tactical light, tactical..............well, lots of tactical stuff.
Better to lighten up and realize that tactical just means combat, LE, or SD. My tactical Scattergun Tech is set up with iron sights, Surefire Fore End, side saddle. My Border Patrol is set up similar, without the fore end--both with 18 1/2 " bbls.
Yes, they can be used for hunting, but are set up quite differently than shotguns design for such purpose. IMO, a hunting shotgun is more easily used in a "tactical" situation than the opposite.
Getting back to the purpose of the thread, the 870 has proven itself as a rugged, reliable shotgun for hunting, targets, or tactical.
Better to lighten up and realize that tactical just means combat, LE, or SD. My tactical Scattergun Tech is set up with iron sights, Surefire Fore End, side saddle. My Border Patrol is set up similar, without the fore end--both with 18 1/2 " bbls.
Yes, they can be used for hunting, but are set up quite differently than shotguns design for such purpose. IMO, a hunting shotgun is more easily used in a "tactical" situation than the opposite.
Getting back to the purpose of the thread, the 870 has proven itself as a rugged, reliable shotgun for hunting, targets, or tactical.
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For "Motel Guns" AOWs rule the roost if you can handle the recoil. Short enough to pack away in an overnight bag or a laptop bag, so they can be packed and moved without drawing attention, but delivering firepower comparable to their full sized counterparts.
You also don't need an ATF Form 5320.20 to take them across state lines. I take my Kimmel Kamper with me all the time on the many overnight trips I have to make.
You also don't need an ATF Form 5320.20 to take them across state lines. I take my Kimmel Kamper with me all the time on the many overnight trips I have to make.