Tactical shotgun help

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Hello everybody,

I am new to shotguns and want to purchase a tactical 12 gauge for fun at the range and home defense, however I know very little about them and have a few questions for the experts. I am looking for a semi-auto with maximum capacity, any suggestion? Is there any advantage to pump action vs. semi-auto, I have heard there are shotguns that switch between the two actions is that correct? Also I have seen capacity from 4-9 is 9 the max or is there more options? Lastly, built-in chokes that you can adjust are they any good? Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
The Benelli M4 Tactical (11707) with the full length tube or equivalent using a +2 extension can load to a max of 9 = 2-3/4” shells (7+1+1) or 8 = 3" shells (6+1+1).

The M4 is an awesome shotgun, I like mine more than any other Tactical / defensive shotgun out there but they are a bit expensive.

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I have a Nova and a Super Nova and love them both. Never had anything other than a pump. In my book there is less that can go wrong and I can shoot almost as fast. I have a mag ext. on the SNT and it will hold 7+1.
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I have been looking at the Benelli M4 Tactical, whats the going price and where? The collapsible skeleton stock is $400+ right. I also been looking at the Remington tactical shotguns Model 870, how are these?
 
The Benelli M4 Tactical (11707) with the full length tube or equivalent using a +2 extension can load to a max of 9 = 2-3/4” shells or 8 = 3" shells.
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Mmm. Keep in mind that if you would like to configure your mag in this manner you will have to put on the straight stock in place of the pistol grip for the semi M4. OK to keep the pistol grip of the Super Nova, however, as it is a pump. (Some folks, though, don't think its a big deal as it is not what the law actively looks for.)
 
I like the M4 but have had a Super90 M3 for so long I can't imagine using anything else. Two guns in one and it gets the job done.:cool:
 
I have recently switched my preferance from the 870 to the Mossberg. Not least of which is the of 25,000 500s and 590 currently in the Armed Forces.

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Then there is that thing about clearing a shell that jumps the shell stop. It is rare, but I witnessed one during a course at SIG. The owner of that 870 was out of action and needed the instructor to clear it. While we were discussing it I looked down and saw I could just push the same malfuntion out of the way on my $89, at the time, salvage M-500. By the way don't even think about clearing the same malfunction from the Super Nova. One of the students couldn't do some of the drills because he couldn't access the loading port with the action open. The slide covers the whole thing when to the rear.

I will have to upload a picture of both guns with the malfunction. I have to edit the file sizes or post to my website.

I have since kitted the gun and attempted to sell the kit to the Army. They were not interested. Seems they are still working on a Space Shotgun called the Modular Accessory Shotgun System, MASS. My kit is called the Shotgun Lethality Accessory Package.

http://www.desertsystms.com/SLAP.html

Take care,

Robert
 
Buy a short barreled version of any US made pump shotgun in 12 gauge.

Instead of tactical bling,spend the money on ammo and lessons. Once you are a shotgunner, not just someone with a shotgun, your tactical Chi will emerge all by itself.
 
I tend to go with a simpler package for a HD shotgun. I did want a 2 shot mag extension, and I like the larger safety on a Remington 870. I went with a 20 inch factory rifle sight barrel with IC choke.
It does everything a shotgun is supposed to do. If you need more, you probably would be better served with a rifle, like an AR or AK.
I agree with Dave, that money spent on practice is more valuable than money spent on TactiCool stuff.

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Nice 870, that is the classic shotgun. I still prefer the basic Mossberg though. Don't let my pictured military requirement Mossberg mislead you. 90% of us civilian just need the basic M-500 or 870, I own both.
 
I figured it out. Again these are rare malfunctions, but something to think about. I prepped this with Snap Caps.

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I just made a deal for a Super Nova Tactical ~ now to find a high quality mag extension :cool:

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My Mossburg 500

I got this last year and added a folding stock and fore arm got a good deal $100. with this and my WASR-10 with side folding stock $300 new I have a BLAST shotting them when I can very happy with both
 

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Buy a 870, learn to shoot it, you can get a new one for 250 and after you learn how to use it, then get a shorter slug barrel and use that for HD with buck shot or heavy loads of smaller shot.

I have found several 870s at pawn shops lately for under 150, some as low as 130 for ones with limited blueing. but for a closet HD shotgun, that will work fine.

If you find a older vent rib fixed choke barrel, they make good choices to have them shortened and often are available for 30 to 50 bucks.
 
If you don't have to worry about impressing the other people at the range with the newest black gun, a good used Browning A5 is hard to beat, for a home defence gun, and is my personal favorite. I have one with a slug barrel, that I like. Plus I like the Magazzene cutoff feature, and the later models have an easy load feature, where if you was to run the gun dry, and the slide locked open, just insert another round into the mag and it will go automatically into the chamber, and the slide will close, ready for action again, should you still need it.

I personally don't think there is an eaiser gun to keep loaded, or reload, then the one I just described.
 
I shoot a LOT of shotgun shells, whether ir be barrel melting opening day dove hunts, or 300rds a day steel plate drills, and I have NEVER had an 870 have a shell jump the shell latch. Furthermore, I have never seen an 870 with this issue in all of my training and shooting, and believe me when I say that most cops run the 870 hard.

I own a 500 and an 870. I prefer the 870, but the 500 is a serviceable gun in its own right. While I do not feel that the Mossberg, be it a 500 or 590, is as durable a gun as the 870, chances are it will last a lifetime for most shooters.
 
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