Tactical Mindset when you're a kid?
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I will go to a sports bar. I like people and dont feel i need to be alone to be safe. I like to go out to eat and will sit in front of a window. I dont go in the ugly parts of town to eat, a little common sense. I am not the least bit afraid to go for a walk. i carry but not all the time. i dont see scary monsters out there behind every tree. people who dont look like me dont bother me, again common sense. some guys smell of trouble! i am here to enjoy like not going through it paranoid and not sitting down to eat unless i can watch the door. I dont carry in church because i dont need to. this past year millions and millions of people went to church and did not get shot. Yes a few did but the chances are so slim i dont need to worry about it. Yes it can happen but i can get hit by an asteroid as well. I spent my time in the Marines in the gulf in 91 and spent my time there being on full alert. I dont need to be here. to prove my point how many of you have had to shoot some one in a non leo setting? case proved!
About 7 y/o, being a minority in a racially charged town. When I moved away, as an adult, my new friends thought I was nuts when I could tell them the general appearance of everyone sitting behind me in restaurants, and my attempts to keep my back to the wall when I could. They were mostly right...the place *was* a lot safer. Add on another 30 years, and I was amazed that people were teaching the "paranoid" attitude I'd had for years. My wife still doesn't understand it.
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Come on guys Paranoid and prepared are to different things.
Paranoid/paranoia;Exhibiting or characterized by extreme and irrational fear or distrust of others
Prepared; ready to deal with something: in a suitable physical or mental state to be able to cope with something, often something hard or bad
Nothing extreme or irrational about wanting to sit in a chain that allows one to watch the entrance. Nothing extreme about carrying whenever possible if I have made the decision to do so. In fact I would argue that one is foolish for having decided that they need to carry only to carry part time. Nothing extreme or irrational about knowing who is around you.
Amazing how some people characterize being prepared. I have found that these people usually do so to justify their lack of preparedness.
Paranoid/paranoia;Exhibiting or characterized by extreme and irrational fear or distrust of others
Prepared; ready to deal with something: in a suitable physical or mental state to be able to cope with something, often something hard or bad
Nothing extreme or irrational about wanting to sit in a chain that allows one to watch the entrance. Nothing extreme about carrying whenever possible if I have made the decision to do so. In fact I would argue that one is foolish for having decided that they need to carry only to carry part time. Nothing extreme or irrational about knowing who is around you.
Amazing how some people characterize being prepared. I have found that these people usually do so to justify their lack of preparedness.
Well, I carry two 357 snubs on each ankle, a pair of Seecamp 380's in each pocket, and a Desert Eagle 50 in my shoulder holster. I keep a Mini 14 fully loaded with a 30 round mag in my car at all times.
When my wife and i go to a restaurant, if we can't get a table facing the door, then we leave, go home and eat leftovers.
If anyone approaches me, I immediately profile them to determine if they have any criminal intentions.
I know BG's lurk around every corner, bushes, and trees, but I am ready. I am not paranoid, just prepared!
When my wife and i go to a restaurant, if we can't get a table facing the door, then we leave, go home and eat leftovers.
If anyone approaches me, I immediately profile them to determine if they have any criminal intentions.
I know BG's lurk around every corner, bushes, and trees, but I am ready. I am not paranoid, just prepared!
Perldog007
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Don't think I have ever really arrived at tactical. Went from naive to paranoid to angry to really not wanting to get in a gunfight or any terminal contest.
I run a tight ship here at home, but even on my own ground I aspire to be a 'jonin' the enemy never appears.... the sword is never unsheathed.
So I guess I have never become tactical. At home I am prepared to fight, well equipped to do so, but concentrate on the avoidance of adventure.
If I couldn't avoid the fight or had to worry about my wife, tactical would never enter into it. Ballistic would be more accurate.
Out in the open, no shame in backing down, de-escalation. I will always try to be "invisible" until cornered. Then we are right back to ballistic.
Now my son the corporal, he has been tactical for a few years now. But it's his job. He's good at it.
I run a tight ship here at home, but even on my own ground I aspire to be a 'jonin' the enemy never appears.... the sword is never unsheathed.
So I guess I have never become tactical. At home I am prepared to fight, well equipped to do so, but concentrate on the avoidance of adventure.
If I couldn't avoid the fight or had to worry about my wife, tactical would never enter into it. Ballistic would be more accurate.
Out in the open, no shame in backing down, de-escalation. I will always try to be "invisible" until cornered. Then we are right back to ballistic.
Now my son the corporal, he has been tactical for a few years now. But it's his job. He's good at it.
I don't consider myself tactical. I did go out in the woods starting when I was 10 and played cowboys and Indians with real guns and real bullets(by myself)but that was then. I try to stay low key and blend in but if somebody brings it to me I'm going to do my best to give it to them.
Interesting elements from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association, regarding the paranoid personality:
-Interprets hidden, demeaning or threatening content into ordinary events or comments
-Persistently bears grudges
-Imagines personal attacks on own reputation or character that others do not perceive; the patient responds quickly with anger or counterattacks
Now, back to the topic at hand.
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-Interprets hidden, demeaning or threatening content into ordinary events or comments
-Persistently bears grudges
-Imagines personal attacks on own reputation or character that others do not perceive; the patient responds quickly with anger or counterattacks
Now, back to the topic at hand.
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Carrying more than 2 guns is not paraniod its insane. I never carried that many in combat in the Marines! If i felt i needed more than 2 guns to be safe i would move to antarica. Last i heard not many penguins carry weapons but you never know i would carry at least two down there as well. I think that not eating at a resaraunt because you cant see the door is super paraniod as well. Man life is way to short to go through it looking for a monster behind every door. Thats truly living your life in FEAR!! You are letting the longest of odds control your life. You are a prisoner of your own fears!! I want no part of that world. I will not live in fear that everyone out there is going to try and kill me. I am starting to understand some of the paranoid ones. its not just paranoia its fear! You carry so you dont have to feel afraid. thats not rational its sad
Well said kgpcr
Situational awareness does not mean ,see everyone as a threat. It should mean realisticly assess your enviroment, to maintain condition red will burn you out fast and is counter productive to the security of you and yours. Inspector Clouseo had Kato to attack without warnig to keep him sharp. Now thats comedy. It just as comedic to believe one is always a coiled spring ready for action at a moments notice. Bad people look for condition white sheeple a minimal amount of awareness is often enough to idetify a threat. If you see "zombies" coming down the street
don"t go see what they want avoid avoid. There used to be a certain bar that I would drive past on my way to point B every other week it was encircled with yellow crime tape I would always ask my buddy if he wanted to stop in for a drink on the way home he would always say "no" . Good choice good grasp of situational awareness.
Situational awareness does not mean ,see everyone as a threat. It should mean realisticly assess your enviroment, to maintain condition red will burn you out fast and is counter productive to the security of you and yours. Inspector Clouseo had Kato to attack without warnig to keep him sharp. Now thats comedy. It just as comedic to believe one is always a coiled spring ready for action at a moments notice. Bad people look for condition white sheeple a minimal amount of awareness is often enough to idetify a threat. If you see "zombies" coming down the street
don"t go see what they want avoid avoid. There used to be a certain bar that I would drive past on my way to point B every other week it was encircled with yellow crime tape I would always ask my buddy if he wanted to stop in for a drink on the way home he would always say "no" . Good choice good grasp of situational awareness.Baba Louie
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True.
But were you "out there" surrounded by bad guys (or potential BG's) all alone with only one weapon and a limited number of rounds with no squad support or artillery backup?
If you KNEW you were going to a gunfight, you'd want several of your buddies with you right? All carrying long guns with several reloads, more than likely.
Back when I was a kid, all of the men in the family had served in the military as had most of the neighborhood Dads (drafted) and most of the boys were in Scouts and we all played either Cops/Robbers, Cowboys/Injuns or Krauts and Japs... and you never knew where the bad guys (or good guys) were laying in ambush. (Note: we were taught that the robbers and Krauts would surrender when they ran out of ammo, but never the Injuns and Japs, you HAD to kill them) And we ALL had toy guns for play and real guns for going out shooting with our Dad's and Uncles. Being PC was unheard of in those days where I grew up. But being aware of your enemies was.
sw_florida
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Carrying two guns
is not paranoia. I carry the large frame .357 mag on my right hip and a pocket snubby in my left front pocket. Once on AMW I saw an unlucky guy who was gripped by his right hand, so that even if he carried strong side, he was doomed. After a struggle, they shot him in the head. Plus, a pitbull may jump you and bite your right hand and not let go. Two guns, one for each hand, is responsible carrying.
I wouldn't go jogging without a snubby inside an extra belly band. Jogging on abandoned back streets, why take the chance? Scumbags like to do bad things when there are no witnesses around, it's a proven fact by now.
To you who returns home if there is no table facing the front door of the restaurant: have you tried trying other restaurants instead of just going home?
I don't like to be in situations where I have to be in code red. I want out of there so I can relax. In a normal crowd during day time I can be very relaxed. Partly because I carry.
is not paranoia. I carry the large frame .357 mag on my right hip and a pocket snubby in my left front pocket. Once on AMW I saw an unlucky guy who was gripped by his right hand, so that even if he carried strong side, he was doomed. After a struggle, they shot him in the head. Plus, a pitbull may jump you and bite your right hand and not let go. Two guns, one for each hand, is responsible carrying.
I wouldn't go jogging without a snubby inside an extra belly band. Jogging on abandoned back streets, why take the chance? Scumbags like to do bad things when there are no witnesses around, it's a proven fact by now.
To you who returns home if there is no table facing the front door of the restaurant: have you tried trying other restaurants instead of just going home?
I don't like to be in situations where I have to be in code red. I want out of there so I can relax. In a normal crowd during day time I can be very relaxed. Partly because I carry.
packing two
is reasonable, but the guy packing 4 or 5 is a little over the top. I prefer to just carry one, maybe two if the chance is available. I usually wear jeans w/ a shirt tucked in, so one is almost always my only option. That being said, I do keep a 12 ga. in the truck. I go to the farm every so often so that gun is a staple. If I wake up in the morning and feel that I need to carry more than two guns on me, I'm stayin home and loading the whole arsenal and I ain't goin' nowhere.
is reasonable, but the guy packing 4 or 5 is a little over the top. I prefer to just carry one, maybe two if the chance is available. I usually wear jeans w/ a shirt tucked in, so one is almost always my only option. That being said, I do keep a 12 ga. in the truck. I go to the farm every so often so that gun is a staple. If I wake up in the morning and feel that I need to carry more than two guns on me, I'm stayin home and loading the whole arsenal and I ain't goin' nowhere.
Yes i was out there with the First Marine Division in Desert Storm. We breached the Sadam line with little effort because we spent alot of time on the other side of the line to find out what was there and the mine field layouts. I carried my M16, a 1911 and a few grenades. i carried one mag in my weapon and 12 30rnd mags in 4 mag pouches each holding 3 mags. i carried 6 mags for my .45. a bit more than the usual 210rnds carried by most Marines. If we got busted on the wrong side of the line (and we did a few times) i wanted to make sure i had enough to hold the fight. Marines dont spray and pray so that was alot of ammo. As far as code RED. most here have no clue what that really means.
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I am saying alot people here have no clue what its like to be in any real fight. and many would wind up with wet pants if they did. after all was said and done they would not want to talk about it, they would not want to do it again and wonder why in the hell they wanted to go to battle in the first place. Not that i would not do it again, To defend the USA i would again in a heartbeat. i tried to go back in 2001 but a bad shoulder made that not happen. But i would do it with my eyes wide open not like the ingnorant kid i was the first time. I did my job and did it well but it was nothing like i thought it would be. after it was done i sure as hell was no tough guy or bad ass just a Marine who did his job. i am done here.