Swing State Gunners - How Can We Help?

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Joseph

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As I see it, the following states can use all the help they can find to keep Kerry from winning:

Arkansas, Maine, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, and Washington.

Do you members of those states know of any events which we can pitch in on to help make successful? Money, computer work, etc., to help ya'll?

Now's the time, and our rights are the issue. Let us know!! :mad:
 
You forgot Wisconsin. It's going to be very close here. Kerry and Bush have visited WI more often than Bush & Gore and Clinton & Dole combined.

We definitely need a way to let gun owners know that Kerry is anti-gun! There's a ton of them--even NRA Life Members--who don't believe that. His photo-ops have been very effective.

I guess Goebbels was right. Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the "truth."
 
KISS Judgement Call

Dick,

I've been using the L.A.Times poll compilations, which include all the major polling results and a slick interactive state-by-state model for keeping track. As of 28Sep, the Times has moved Wisconsin out of swing and into Bush, +7 over Kerry. Not that this can't change, but for the sake of my alert, I used states which were +3 or -3 Bush. That left the ten states listed above.

Last time we did this, in 2000, I don't know if you remember, but we sent a bunch of money to grass-roots activities, such as the one in Denver. IIRC, things went very well.

But like you said, we can't rest, and Kerry just is about the worst thing for our rights. Time to "turn to"!

"And you said, feed me. And I was feeding you Dick, feeding you." Group Captain Lionel Mandrake.
 
Time to get to Work!

Our local NC activist group, Grass Roots North Carolina (www.grnc.org), has been shaking things up around here for several years. Go to any NC gun show and you find at least one table taking donations and signing up members. The group has been a target, most recently in an Anti-Gun article, generating GRNC's Retort . GRNC is so successful by folks like us pitching in $20 here and there. That's real grass roots, and real success.

We don't have to worry about NC voting for Bush, but the election is WAY TOO CLOSE!

I'm sure each state has a similar group as GRNC, and the following states, among perhaps others, are in play: Florida, Iowa, Maine, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. (That's for you, Dick. :D )

I will send $20 to each statewide pro-gun group (similar to GRNC) posted here from the above list of states. That's what, $200 or so. That's a brick or two of plinking ammo.

Anybody got some links to post? I'd like to do a little plinking. :cool:

Roon
 
Wisconsin is still in play. Depending upon which poll you look at, either Bush or Kerry have a slight lead.

Remember, Gore won Wisconsin by just six-tenths of a percent in the last election. 5,000 votes.
 
Dick,

Can you post a statewide Wisconsin gun rights group link you think could use the donations to good effect?

Thanks!
Roon
 
TheBluesMan,

Done! I sent off $20 yesterday, AND bought a coffee cup! (Yeh, I really need another coffee cup. :rolleyes: ) They look like a very good group.

And a matching donation of $20!! Now that's the way we beat Kerry!!

Still got a bunch of plinkin' to do. Any more links?

Roon
 
Danindetroit,

It's still in the running, given the 4% margin of error. Got any good links?

Michigan
Research 2000 for The South Bend Tribune and WSBT-TV. Oct. 11-13, 2004. N=600 likely voters. MoE ± 4:

Bush 43%
Kerry 48%
Nader 2%
Badnarik 1%
Unsure 6%
 
Joseph, our group--the Wisconsin Concealed Carry Association--has a political action committee, the WCCM. We don't operate at the federal level, though. Only state level candidates. We've already given the maximum amount to every pro-gun candidate who wanted PAC money, some $15,000 or so in the last couple of months.

I know you're concerned about the presidential race, but for you or others interested in concealed carry in WI, there's another race at the state level that's important.

Barb Linton, who was the representative for the northernmost district in the state a few years ago, has returned to run against Democrat incumbent Representative Gary Sherman.

Gary Sherman voted for our concealed carry bill in 2002, signed on as a co-sponsor for the bill in June of 2003, voted for the bill in November of 2003, and wrote lengthy articles in his district's newspapers about why we needed the bill. After the governor vetoed the bill, he wouldn't talk to the NRA, our group, or any other gun group.

When the day of the veto override came, we had exactly the number of votes to override the governor's veto--if Sherman voted to override. He waited until every other member voted, then voted to sustain the veto.

The governor offered him something, and I think I know what it is. Meanwhile, right after the veto override vote, Governor Doyle started holding fund-raisers for Sherman all over the state. He even had one in March at a chi-chi coffeehouse on Milwaukee's liberal East Side, with anti-gunners turning out in full force to contribute and to thank Sherman for keeping Wisconsin one of four states with no concealed carry.

As of the last campaign filing report, roughly 1/3 of his contributions have come from the liberal Madison area and the Milwaukee area (Milwaukee is 370 miles from Sherman's district).

Barb Linton is 100% for concealed carry, and is running a very good campaign. But Sherman still is outspending her. Anyone who wants to help can send a donation of any amount up to $500 to: Linton for the North, Route 1, Box 299, Highbridge, WI, 54846.
 
We've already given the maximum amount to every pro-gun candidate who wanted PAC money, some $15,000 or so in the last couple of months.
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Dick,

That's great!

Sounds as if Sherman is the kind of guy who needs to be stopped. I would prefer to give to a statwide group, as you noted, but I will follow your lead. If you want the donation to go to Linton, shoot me her website.

Edit: I tried a search for her website, but no cigar. I call her tomorrow to see if they can take a donation over the phone. Any coffee cups? :cool:

Thanks,
Roon
 
I hope the undecideds swing us into a win here. I can't do much I am handicapped. I try to tell people the truth. It is hard here most people think Kerry is a hunter because he said so, and the 94 crime bill banned assault weapons. When I can tell people when My wife and I take are dog to the park I tell them. Hopefully there are more people out there willing to be branded a gun nut.
 
$20 to Barb Linton, via snail mail. Done.

It's feelin' a little lonely out here. Come on folks, these are your rights, but only if you work for them!
 
DAN, remember MI has a big union vote for Dems. But, supposedly ist still close.

Would it be helping if I removed the 'Sportsmen for Kerry' signs? I think there is a law against false advertising, or something of the sorts. Big orange sign with a gun and fishing pole, even.
 
Send a spot of money to Mel Martinez or SwiftVets...

In Florida we have Mel Martinez running against Betty Castor in the US Senate race. Martinez has an NRA endorsement rating while Betty Castor has an "F". Now I know the NRA's screwed up rating of Ron Paul has undermined the legitimacy of their system but I think you all want to have a pro-gun Senate and here I think there is a real difference between the candidates.

Anyway, if you have extra money to throw around that might be a place to put $10 or so.

An equally good, maybe better place (if you want to effect the Presidential Race) would be SwiftBoat Veterans for Truth. These guys are running effective television ads in swing states like its going out of style. One Ohioan I heard from online said that all he sees are Swiftboat ads.
Just find their website and make a donation. These guys are putting out some pretty tough ads and they seem to be effective. Notice that now, Kerry only makes allusions to his Vietnam service and doesn't brag so loudly about it. Between them and Dan Rather's forged memos, Vietnam has moved from becoming a Bush vulnerability (what with his sorry National Guard service) to a Bush advantage.
 
Anybody have a Florida gun group which can use $20?

Swifties are good, and I gave 'em $50 already, and I'll probably send another $50, but that is separate from this fund.

Come on, shooters, I'll be really disappointed if we can't come up with gunner's rights orgs in these swing states. What am I supposed to do with the bucks, drink 'em up on election night if Kerry wins!!! :confused:
 
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