Thanks for all your input, guys. Since I don't have the waterproof ALICE pack liner, I guess I won't be goin swimmin'! Anyhow, if I did have to get wet around my place, it would be in the Bonpas (pronounced Bump ha)or Nigger creek(that is actually the correct name for it). The latter has some 5ft+water, but Bonpas has about 6in of water followed by about 7 feet of mud. Snappin' turtle heaven! By the way, has anyone had experience with the new MOLLE pack? Would love to have it, but it ain't worth $900. It comes in several configs. including grenadier, SAW man, rifleman, and pistol. The pack is the same on all, but the vest is different. When I first read about it I was ROTFLMAO. I could just imagine the SAW gunner. The poor dude has not only pouches for the SAW, but 30 rnd. mag pouches, utility pouches, and shotgun shell holders! The pistol config(yes pistol) has but ONE pistol mag holder and a utility pouch. I could see it now, the guy out in combat carrying a pistol only, giving fire support to the SAW man while he is on point and is advancing toward the enemy and supplying the other riflemen with 30 round mags, and 12 gauge shotgun shells to the guy with the shotgun(where did he come from?)! I am still ROTFLMAO!! No, I'm not stupid, I know this is the exact opposite of how it really is, but the way the packs are set up, it makes you wonder. Still ROTFLMAO!!! HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH