survivor garbage
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maxinquaye
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Being that my TV goes straight to the VCR only for once a month movies, the only thing I know about survivor is:
1. A bunch of silly people seem to be really caught up in that garbage and
2. It has helped me screen my dates -
ME: "So, did you watch survivor last night?"
HER: "no, I don't watch that crap"
ME: "So, what are you doing this weekend!"
1. A bunch of silly people seem to be really caught up in that garbage and
2. It has helped me screen my dates -
ME: "So, did you watch survivor last night?"
HER: "no, I don't watch that crap"
ME: "So, what are you doing this weekend!"
Haven't seen a single episode, I'm proud to say. I firmly believe that in the never-ending quest for ratings within a few years there will be a similar series wherein they arm the contestants to give it a "survivor" flavor in the truest sense. I'd really like to be wrong about this, but it just seems logical...
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"...and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
Luke 22:36
"An armed society is a polite society."
Robert Heinlein
"Power corrupts. Absolute power - is kinda cool!"
Fred Reed
KAM_Indianapolis
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ok, how about if that made the show, you are dropped on a deserted island, cameras are through out the island. There are 6 of you dropped on at any one time. You have 2 weeks to survive.
People are eliminated by death, tapping out (giving up). Survivors who last the 2 weeks get ???
Contestants get to bring a large fanny pack, with anything they want except wireless communications devices.
Wonder what I would bring...
People are eliminated by death, tapping out (giving up). Survivors who last the 2 weeks get ???
Contestants get to bring a large fanny pack, with anything they want except wireless communications devices.
Wonder what I would bring...
I was surfing (honest!) and caught the
"cliff-hanger" contrived ending. As cynical as I am, I still find it unbelievable that this kind of crap can find an audience.
The comment by mk86fcc reminded me of the movie "The Running Man". I suspect he is right. What's next, cannibalism? Just about every other cultural no-no has been denigrated.
Pat Moynihan (D-NY) coined a nice phrase for this stuff - "The diminuation of deviation".
"cliff-hanger" contrived ending. As cynical as I am, I still find it unbelievable that this kind of crap can find an audience.
The comment by mk86fcc reminded me of the movie "The Running Man". I suspect he is right. What's next, cannibalism? Just about every other cultural no-no has been denigrated.
Pat Moynihan (D-NY) coined a nice phrase for this stuff - "The diminuation of deviation".
I didn't watch a single episode.
My wife and I had a house guest for two weeks earlier this month. This guest loved the show, and had to watch both episodes that showed while she was there. I had to leave the room, because for me, simply even hearing what was going on sucked too much to endure.
Am I correct in hearing that they're planning a second season? Please tell me I'm wrong.
My wife and I had a house guest for two weeks earlier this month. This guest loved the show, and had to watch both episodes that showed while she was there. I had to leave the room, because for me, simply even hearing what was going on sucked too much to endure.
Am I correct in hearing that they're planning a second season? Please tell me I'm wrong.
I watched about 20 minutes of what I think was the first episode because I was too lazy to get off my Soloflex and walk across the room. No remote on that TV.
I decided I was not interested in ever seeing anymore of this tripe unless the two "tribes" started killing and eating the camera crew. That I would watch.
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I decided I was not interested in ever seeing anymore of this tripe unless the two "tribes" started killing and eating the camera crew. That I would watch.
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"He is useless on top of the ground; he ought to be under it, inspiring the cabbages."
Mark Twain
OK, I'll be the non-conformist here and admit that I did watch a few minutes of "Survivor" now and then. It was too corny to watch for a full hour, but I did catch about ten minutes per episode. I accept full responsibility for America's decline into moral, cultural and intellectual decay. 
Seriously, though, the show was interesting from the angle of being an experiment in game theory and psychology. The challenge for the contestants wasn't so much "survival" against the forces of nature as figuring out how to simultaneously compete against the other contestants while staying popular enough to avoid being voted out of the game. As a viewer, I was interested in seeing how successful each contestant's strategy was.
Some of the games within the larger game were also interesting. For instance, in the last episode, the last three contestants were given an "immunity challenge", the winner of which would get to kick one of the other contestants off the island. The game was simple: each player had to stand in the sun with one hand on a wooden pole. The last person to maintain contact with the pole would be the winner.
At one level, this was a straightforward test of will power. At another level, though, it was an opportunity for some psychological gamesmanship. A player who didn't expect to outlast the others could drop out early, thereby making the eventual winner think that the second place player was the more dangerous opponent and therefore the best choice for elimination. (And in fact, this is what the show's overall winner did.) Or a player could have used verbal means to persuade the others to give up (although as far as I saw, no one did). The obvious strategy would have been to give each of the other players a swift kick but I think the rules of the game prohibited that.
Hmmm... Looking back, the thing about "Survivor" that annoyed me the most was seeing the contestants make so many dumb strategic choices. In light of who won the last two presidential elections, I suppose that shouldn't have been any surprise.
Seriously, though, the show was interesting from the angle of being an experiment in game theory and psychology. The challenge for the contestants wasn't so much "survival" against the forces of nature as figuring out how to simultaneously compete against the other contestants while staying popular enough to avoid being voted out of the game. As a viewer, I was interested in seeing how successful each contestant's strategy was.
Some of the games within the larger game were also interesting. For instance, in the last episode, the last three contestants were given an "immunity challenge", the winner of which would get to kick one of the other contestants off the island. The game was simple: each player had to stand in the sun with one hand on a wooden pole. The last person to maintain contact with the pole would be the winner.
At one level, this was a straightforward test of will power. At another level, though, it was an opportunity for some psychological gamesmanship. A player who didn't expect to outlast the others could drop out early, thereby making the eventual winner think that the second place player was the more dangerous opponent and therefore the best choice for elimination. (And in fact, this is what the show's overall winner did.) Or a player could have used verbal means to persuade the others to give up (although as far as I saw, no one did). The obvious strategy would have been to give each of the other players a swift kick but I think the rules of the game prohibited that.
Hmmm... Looking back, the thing about "Survivor" that annoyed me the most was seeing the contestants make so many dumb strategic choices. In light of who won the last two presidential elections, I suppose that shouldn't have been any surprise.
Wow, Those are some awful strong opinions on a subject some of y'all admit to knowing absolutely nothing about. I thought we here at TFL left that kind of mindset to the anti's of the world 
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Unless you are simply going on the assumption that Popular = Bad (In which case you better send all those bad Glocks, and 1911's my way). Y'all know what assumptions make out of you, right?
Anyway, about the show, I caught the last couple of episodes, and they were entertaining. It is a little contrived, and sometimes a bit silly, definately over dramatized, but it's a GAME. The strategies and gamesmanship kept it interesting. I enjoyed, and will catch the second one after the superbowl. Beats the snot out of that "Who Wants To BE A Millionaire"
I sincerely doubt this show is anymore of a threat to society than strong opinions based on ignorance, or say pride in ignorance.
.Unless you are simply going on the assumption that Popular = Bad (In which case you better send all those bad Glocks, and 1911's my way). Y'all know what assumptions make out of you, right?
Anyway, about the show, I caught the last couple of episodes, and they were entertaining. It is a little contrived, and sometimes a bit silly, definately over dramatized, but it's a GAME. The strategies and gamesmanship kept it interesting. I enjoyed, and will catch the second one after the superbowl. Beats the snot out of that "Who Wants To BE A Millionaire"
I sincerely doubt this show is anymore of a threat to society than strong opinions based on ignorance, or say pride in ignorance.
I am over thirty, but I have a toddler at home so going out isn't usually a strong option on a Wednesday night. I am not the least bit ashamed to say I watched every single episode and I was utterly FASCINATED by it. It was a real-life exhibition of Game Theory in action, the kind of psychological experiment they don't LET university Psych departments put on anymore.
It was nothing like Jerry Springer because it was regular people, not trailer trash they dug up and paid to be more trashy than usual.
It's amazing to me how many people keep saying "I never watched it, not a second!" Well, 110 MILLION people watched it...so the odds are, some of ya's are lying.
It was nothing like Jerry Springer because it was regular people, not trailer trash they dug up and paid to be more trashy than usual.
It's amazing to me how many people keep saying "I never watched it, not a second!" Well, 110 MILLION people watched it...so the odds are, some of ya's are lying.
I have to admit, I watched the last 4 episodes.
I do find the last 2 episodes hard to
believe, how did the runner up manage to get 5 immunities in a row??????
And in the final vote by the jury it was a dead tie until the very last vote????
It was said that if anyone let the secret out those persons would incur a 4 million dollar penalty, I think there was more to the contract than they will ever let on.
All of those people were well paid, regardless of when they left the island.
More than half have already recieved offers for endorsing silly products.
Waterdog
I do find the last 2 episodes hard to
believe, how did the runner up manage to get 5 immunities in a row??????
And in the final vote by the jury it was a dead tie until the very last vote????
It was said that if anyone let the secret out those persons would incur a 4 million dollar penalty, I think there was more to the contract than they will ever let on.
All of those people were well paid, regardless of when they left the island.
More than half have already recieved offers for endorsing silly products.
Waterdog
Johnny Got His Gun.1
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Yep. Watched all of two early episodes and the finale. I had hoped Rudy would make it, but, of course, that would make too much sense. That was probably just a vacation to a dyed-in-the-wool Navy vet like him.
My wife and I thought the ending was a bit contrived, what with all those immunities for the one girl and the well-placed "tie." Gee, it got sooooooo suspenseful. I was pissed off when Rudy got voted off the island.
I will admit, the rat-roasting episode was interesting, but otherwise it was a show about popularity and group politics.
My wife and I thought the ending was a bit contrived, what with all those immunities for the one girl and the well-placed "tie." Gee, it got sooooooo suspenseful. I was pissed off when Rudy got voted off the island.
I will admit, the rat-roasting episode was interesting, but otherwise it was a show about popularity and group politics.