Full Metal Jacket
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Anyone have this or recommend it? Can it really be effective as a melee weapon, and have enough brightness to temporarily blind?
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Surefire Defender
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Wildalaska
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having sold about 50 of them to soldiers, cops, civilians and folks on the Boards, and based on what I have heard and observed...yes and yes...
WilditsmyfavsurefireAlaska
WilditsmyfavsurefireAlaska
FMJ -
Can't comment on the "Defender", but my SureFire 6P (2 x DL123 cells) has enough light that it will not only temporarily blind someone, but it hurts to look at. A couple of times the light was reflected back at me (chrome bumper or something) and reflex shuts the eyes and forces you to turn away.
Caution ! These lights can get HOT at the lens end! Hot enough to set paper or fabric on fire if left on for a prolonged time (several minutes).
I hardly go anywhere without mine.
Can't comment on the "Defender", but my SureFire 6P (2 x DL123 cells) has enough light that it will not only temporarily blind someone, but it hurts to look at. A couple of times the light was reflected back at me (chrome bumper or something) and reflex shuts the eyes and forces you to turn away.
Caution ! These lights can get HOT at the lens end! Hot enough to set paper or fabric on fire if left on for a prolonged time (several minutes).
I hardly go anywhere without mine.
Webleywielder
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Buy it now, carry it always
I no longer consider myself fully armed unless I am carrying my Surefire Lumax or Defender. At night the advantage gained over an adversary you can temporarily blind and even disorient is tremendous. I have done drills simulating a charge from 7 yards by a knife wielding assailant that clearly demonstrated it may be better to have the Surefire alone than only a handgun. You may empty your gun into your attacker, but probably not in the 2 seconds before contact is made, and still get stabbed. With the Surefire you are able to dodge and run because the attacker moves toward where he last saw the light. The Surefire also is a skull cracking, eye gouging, throat crushing impact weapon when you get unlucky and contact is actually made. With a Surefire and a handgun your chances of not getting knifed and also making the assailant DRT are tremendously improved. I own 4 Surefires that range from 15 to 220 lumens. When you get up to lumen levels over 150, the stobe technique is really disorienting. Even the smaller 60 and 100 lumen level Surefires when strobed are fairly effective in disorienting your assailant. They all destroy your assailant's night vision. I have purchased 3 others for female family members. They all "love the little flashlight" and feel much safer because with it they are far more likely to avoid attack.
"In a world devoid of semiautomatics, a properly set-up Webley is the ultimate full-size self-defense handgun."
I no longer consider myself fully armed unless I am carrying my Surefire Lumax or Defender. At night the advantage gained over an adversary you can temporarily blind and even disorient is tremendous. I have done drills simulating a charge from 7 yards by a knife wielding assailant that clearly demonstrated it may be better to have the Surefire alone than only a handgun. You may empty your gun into your attacker, but probably not in the 2 seconds before contact is made, and still get stabbed. With the Surefire you are able to dodge and run because the attacker moves toward where he last saw the light. The Surefire also is a skull cracking, eye gouging, throat crushing impact weapon when you get unlucky and contact is actually made. With a Surefire and a handgun your chances of not getting knifed and also making the assailant DRT are tremendously improved. I own 4 Surefires that range from 15 to 220 lumens. When you get up to lumen levels over 150, the stobe technique is really disorienting. Even the smaller 60 and 100 lumen level Surefires when strobed are fairly effective in disorienting your assailant. They all destroy your assailant's night vision. I have purchased 3 others for female family members. They all "love the little flashlight" and feel much safer because with it they are far more likely to avoid attack.
"In a world devoid of semiautomatics, a properly set-up Webley is the ultimate full-size self-defense handgun."
I have one and I love it. It is extremely bright as is with most all surefires. I have yet to crush anyones skull but I am waiting for the chance to come along(J.K.). The thing is built very well ant it appears that it could do some damage if you clocked someone with it. It has quite the cool factor but like I said most of us will probably never get to test the effective weapon aspect.
racinstylez
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does someone have a link where you can purchase them?
racinstylez
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ouch, I didnt think the cost would be so high.... 
Wildalaska
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Why dont ya gimme a call 
Or an email
WildkingoflightAlaska
Or an email
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Webleywielder
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Surefires are cheap for what you get
Where else can you get an Illuminator/Weapon Fire Control System Enhancement Device/Impact Weapon for so little $?
"In a world devoid of semiautomatics, a properly set-up Webley is the ultimate full-size self-defense handgun."
Where else can you get an Illuminator/Weapon Fire Control System Enhancement Device/Impact Weapon for so little $?
"In a world devoid of semiautomatics, a properly set-up Webley is the ultimate full-size self-defense handgun."
Let me start with this...I dont want to put anybody down. Surefire makes a good light. I've had a 6P for some time. HOWEVER.....Pelican makes a tactical light (the M6) thats just as good and is MUCH less expensive. This light is built just like the SF..runs on two lithium batteries, made of aircraft aluminum, is water proof...and is just as bright.
I own a SF 6P and a Pelican M6. I mounted the M6 on my Bushmaster M4 A2. It works just as good as the SF. Never again will I pay a price that high for a light when I can get one thats just as good for much less money. I know everybody has a favorite and alot of people like the Surefire but the Pelican M6 is just as good for less.
Heres a link for the Pelican. Take a look.
http://www.copquest.com/15-0500.htm#Pelican_M6_Lithium_Flashlight
I own a SF 6P and a Pelican M6. I mounted the M6 on my Bushmaster M4 A2. It works just as good as the SF. Never again will I pay a price that high for a light when I can get one thats just as good for much less money. I know everybody has a favorite and alot of people like the Surefire but the Pelican M6 is just as good for less.
Heres a link for the Pelican. Take a look.
http://www.copquest.com/15-0500.htm#Pelican_M6_Lithium_Flashlight
locked'n'cocked
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its not as purdy as a sure fire. 
looks like a good deal though
looks like a good deal thoughWildalaska
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For the minimal price diff, gimme a Surefire Defender
WildtriedembothAlaska
WildtriedembothAlaska
Webleywielder
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Get a defender.
You will be more likely to carry it all the time, unlike the cheaper and larger G2.
"In a world deviod of semiautomatics, a properly set-up Webley is the ultimate full-size self-defense handgun".
You will be more likely to carry it all the time, unlike the cheaper and larger G2.
"In a world deviod of semiautomatics, a properly set-up Webley is the ultimate full-size self-defense handgun".