Suppressed. 22

'88Scrat

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I find myself in the market for a little .22 I can thread a suppressor on and enjoy some earmuff free plinking with :)

Was wondering if I could get some opinions on the options I have for a host pistol. Right now I'm leaning towards either a Walther P22, GSG 1911, or the MP22.

Thoughts?
 
Here are the ones I know of that are available in at least one model factory threaded...
Ruger 22/45 Steel, or LITE
Talo Ruger Mark III
Ruger SR22
Ruger Charger
Browning Buckmark Whisper.
Smith and Wesson M&P Compact
Sig Sauer Mosquito
ISSC M22
Tactical Innovations Cohort
Intratec Tec/Scorpion 22

These are the ones I know of that are threaded, BUT require an adapter
Walther PPKS 22
Walther P22
Colt 1911 22
GSG/Sig 1911 22
Smith & Wesson 422-622-2206-2213-2214
Smith & Wesson M&P Full size, and Compact

These CAN be threaded, but require machining
Beretta Neos
Beretta Bobcat

Im sure there are others.

I like the Ruger 22/45, and the Smith & Wesson 422 2213 2214. The Ruger is such a good pistol, its hard to beat it for a host. Its durable, accurate, and low cost.

The Smith & Wesson 422 series is a good choice because of the unique design. It has a steel barrel captured in an aluminum frame by a barrel nut. Unscrew the nut, replace with a threaded adapter, and you are ready to shoot. Because the barrel is low in the frame, there is plenty of clearance above the suppressor for the sights. These guns have been out of production for years now, but they show up from time to time.
 
In addition to the above, there is also the new Smith and Wesson SW22 Victory which is available with a threaded barrel.
 
Get one of the recently imported Israeli surplus Berettas. They are already threaded. You might find a can with matching thread, or you can easily and cheaply find a thread adapter.
 
88Scrat--

I bought a Ruger 22/45 Lite for my Warlock II . . .

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--Bill
 
I have almost the exact same setup 22/45 with a warlock II and a Buris fastfire. Mine is not the "Lite", but i wish it was.

That pistol with the super light Warlock is the cats meow
 
I'm planning on putting a Mask on the VQ carbon fiber barrel (once it gets here) on my SW22 Victory. FWIW, I just ran six different flavors of .22lr through it at the range today, and the stock barrel shoots as well as my '68 model 41.
 
My buddy has a M&P Compact with a suppressor that we use to shoot feral hogs that we trap.....a 200 pound stinky boar can drop like a rock with 46 gr of lead in his noodle. My Compact does not have the muffler but is a super accurate plinker and one heck of a lot of fun.
 
I am curious ... if one shoots match grade sub-sonic .22 LR ammunition, why the need for a supressor? Does the supressor actually muffle the initial burn of the ignition of the powder? I was told the supressor was to mitigate the bullet going through the sound barrier. Was that just part of the story?
 
I am curious ... if one shoots match grade sub-sonic .22 LR ammunition, why the need for a supressor? Does the supressor actually muffle the initial burn of the ignition of the powder? I was told the supressor was to mitigate the bullet going through the sound barrier. Was that just part of the story?

Other way around.

The suppressor quiets the initial firing of the round. A supersonic round will still be supersonic, a suppressor cannot hush the sonic crack of a supersonic bullet. It's making that crack through its entire travel and the suppressor ideally remains attached to the firearm. Now, that crack is much less than the actual report of the round, but it's still a sound.

Even high velocity .22LR will rarely be supersonic out of a pistol.

As for a host, I have both a Buckmark URX I had threaded and a 22/45 Lite. The Buckmark's extra weight up top makes it a little easier to hold on target, the 22/45 has a slightly better trigger pull.
 
I have two pistol hosts, a Ruger 22/45 and a GSG 1911-22. The Ruger was "plug and play"; had to buy an adaptor for the GSG.

Both have their points. The GSG is a little quieter than the Ruger.

I hear good things about the S&W M&P .22 pistol but I've not fired one.
 
Hook686--
I am curious ... if one shoots match grade sub-sonic .22 LR ammunition, why the need for a supressor? Does the supressor actually muffle the initial burn of the ignition of the powder? I was told the supressor was to mitigate the bullet going through the sound barrier. Was that just part of the story?
All of the match grade ammunition I fire is subsonic, therefore there is no sonic "crack." With the Warlock silencer, the Ruger is VERY quiet.

However, it is amazingly quiet even with supersonic ammunition. This surprised me quite a bit.

--Bill
 
Subsonics are still LOUD!!!

For years and years I shot at indoor rifle ranges where only target rifles using subsonic ammunition were present. We still all used ear protection all the time because there still was the crack or bang or whatever when the guns went off and it was LOUD. Maybe not as loud as high velocity or pistols but loud! Loud enough to require hearing protection unless you were happy to have that ringing in your ears.
 
My 22 suppressor pistol hosts include a Walther P22, S&W M&P 22, and a Ruger Mark III. I enjoy shooting the suppressed Mark III the best by far. I'm sure the 22/45 is just as enjoyable.

The P22 is too small for my liking, but not bad for kids or people with smaller hands, however I would buy a Ruger SR22 instead of the Walther if wanted to buy one of that size today.
 
Subsonics are still LOUD!!!

For years and years I shot at indoor rifle ranges where only target rifles using subsonic ammunition were present. We still all used ear protection all the time because there still was the crack or bang or whatever when the guns went off and it was LOUD. Maybe not as loud as high velocity or pistols but loud! Loud enough to require hearing protection unless you were happy to have that ringing in

Suppressed 22 sub-sonics are very quiet. You are referring to unsuppressed, i assume.
 
I have a Walther P22 and a Ruger 22/45.

My Suppressor is a AAC Element 2.

Both guns are very fun. The only real difference is the walther needs the suppressor to run well if your not running hotter ammo. The Ruger runs well with or without the suppressor.
 
Suppressed 22 sub-sonics are very quiet. You are referring to unsuppressed, i assume.

Yep I was referring to the sound of the unsuppressed guns. I was answering the question as to why one would even need a suppressor if they shot subsonics.

My hope would be that the stigma of suppressors go away and they would become just another shooting accessory without the need for any sort of special permission.
 


Another vote for the 22/45 Lite. Here's mine with an AAC Pilot II.

If you really want quiet just hold the bolt in with your thumb and make it a single shot. Amazing how loud the bolt is when it cycles.
 
Here's a Ruger Mark III 22/45 RP 10149 with a "special" bolt set-up that allows the use of CCI Quiet .22 Long Rifle ammunition. This bolt weigh a tad less than half of what the steel bolt does. Over 3000 rounds of testing, so far, and it's quiet. :D

 
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