FrankenMauser
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"Do not judge, lest ye be judged yourself."Have you shot anything with any appreciable amount of recoil? I bet not.
There's a very good reason why all you major big bore conversions use the Bisley grip frame. Because it is measurably better at handling recoil. Because it spreads recoil forces over more of the palm and allows for more control. "If you're getting bitten, you're doing it wrong." Or your grips do not fit your hands. Or you need a Bisley.
Or, in interwebs terms, don't assume.
Just because the current state of the world is all about hating anyone that disagrees with you, doesn't mean that they're automatically full of crap and have zero experience.
I have owned a .44 Mag SBH since 1998. "Plow handle" in all of its glory. It was shot so much that it had to be sent back to Ruger for a new cylinder in 2012. They felt the overall wear was substantial enough to rebuild the entire revolver. So, yes, you could say I've shot it a bit. And I don't shoot mouse fart loads in the SBH. Right now, my supply of loaded 180 gr ammo clocks almost 1,800 fps from a 7.5" barrel. But I actually prefer the heavies. My go-to load is a Lee 310 WFN at 1,350 fps.
That SBH has not been the only player. I've also spent plenty of time with, owned, or currently own S&W 29s and 629s, Blackhawks, Redhawks, and Super Redhawks. .41 Mag, .44 Mag, .45 Colt, and .480 Ruger.
And a few rifle cartridges in TC "handguns".
There is a definitive difference between a 'plow handle' grip and a double action style grip.
That difference is being able to manage recoil with a "roll" on the plow handle. If you can't handle it, you're doing it wrong or have huge hands that just don't fit.
Heavy recoil only makes poor technique or bad fit shine through. It doesn't change the dynamics of the system.
Same thing for guys that bust their knuckles on square trigger guards. That's just bad technique - usually involving choking up on the grip too far ... as in a double-action grip.
Don't mess with the tool if you don't know how to use it.
When gripping a cylindrical or rectangular object, the human hand does not naturally point straight up and down, when held vertically at arms length and head height. It points forward.If the gun points at your feet, you're doing it wrong.
You must assume an unnatural posture to hold a Bisley grip so that the revolver is on target. It naturally points at the ground.
The grip is poorly designed. It is a crutch for people with bad technique or genetic mutation.
Is the plow handle a good grip design? Arguably, no.
It seems somewhat silly to let the gun move around as a natural part of firing it.
But the Bisley grip was not the correct answer to maintaining control. It was a poorly conceived crutch that served to satisfy people that couldn't adapt to being part of the recoil management system for the revolvers.
The better answer was moving the grip *up* in relation to the bore axis, while maintaining a natural angle for the grip. ...Just like we see with modern double actions.