Stupidity and the .38

[Old Grump]

IMO, I think it was a larger caliber than "38" because not possible to fit in.

You are probably right since he said charter arms first thing that comes to my mind is 44 spcl but they do make 32 H&R, 38 spcl, 357 mag and 40 rimless so unless OP looks at the gun we won't know what it was. I have an old German made .357 with .395" chamber and a 10mm is about .42" so who knows?

 

[nathanrw]

Alright, it was the 1911 he shot it in, he just got confused. Apparently he loaded it to top off the mag and never felt the difference between the 10mm and .45. I'll be rearranging the ammo cabinet to try to keep him from hurting himself with my .357 mags in his little .38. He already tried to run some of my 69gr berger loads through his mini 14. So, when do I take away his keys?

 

[Mike Irwin]

"So, when do I take away his keys?"

From the sounds of it...

Yesterday.

 

[jimbob86]

Pictures or didn't happen! because I believe everything on the web.

There's one at the link in post #15.

 

[jimbob86]

Here ya go:

 

[nathanrw]

Here's a couple pictures of the case.

 

[Sharpsdressed Man]

A .45 auto 1911 mag will hold, and is sometimes used to shoot 10mm in 1911's chambered for 10mm. It would be an easy mistake.

 

[Deaf Smith]

I suspect the Charter Arms is a .44 Special, not a .38 Special as stated.

So do I for it is totally impossible to get a 10mm in a .38 spl. chamber.

Deaf

 

[Edward429451]

Maybe he used a FCD on it, LOL!

 

[Patrice]

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[James K]

That 10mm was fired in a .45 chamber, you can even see where the shorter chamber left its mark on the case. If loading does not drive the cartridge too deep, its own inertia will be enough to hold it against the firing pin blow and it will fire.

Another question is what if it doesn't? What if the 10mm/.40 S&W is shoved into the chamber and driven just deep enough to be out of reach of the firing pin. And then the shooter thinks he failed to load the chamber and jacks a .45 in behind the unfired round and fires? What happens? The answer is that there is a kaboom with a burst barrel and another mysterious "blow up" since the pieces of the smaller round will be blown out of the barrel and possibly not identified as the cause of the problem. The same thing can happen with 9mm in a .40S&W or 10mm pistol.

Jim

 

[warningshot]

Does this count?

Everyone should know something like this can happen if the instructions arn't etched into the barrel for all to read. Here in California, everyone knows they are not responsible for what they do.

I'm not saying I loaded a 9mm cartridge in a 1911 chambered in 45acp. No no no. That wasn't me who loaded a 1911 chambered in 9mm with .380acp. either. Nope. Not me. That was somebody else. But...the shooter....well, he did hit the X ring at 7 yards. And immediately afterwards performed an exemplary tap-rack-bang drill and center punched the B27 a second time with a .380acp. cartridge before he, that's correct, he, discovered the error of his ways.

 

[SIGSHR]

I bought an extra barrel for my Browning HP-well used, but still serviceable. First range session, horrible accuracy, then I looked at a fired case. Yes-I was shooting 9MMs out of a 40 S&W barrel.

 

[warningshot]

To Sigshr. For more than just a few years

And at more that just one well used IPSC & IDPA range facility, I've been finding buldged 9mm cases on the ground that looked like they were pressure formed thru a 40 S&W. So you are the one, aayyy.

Now, I want to to go over to that young man over there and hand over your keys and he will give you a nice and new rubber-gun. Well, that's what they told me to do anyway.

 

[chris in va]

Will a 357 fit in a 38 cylinder? I'm assuming they are bored to just fit 38's, but curious.

 

[AZAK]

Will a 357 fit in a 38 cylinder? I'm assuming they are bored to just fit 38's, but curious.

The .357 Mag was originally designed as a longer cartridge to avoid precisely this dilemma; meaning that one could not close a .38 special revolver with .357 mags loaded into it.

 

[bcrash15]

If you are talking about a .357 mag then the answer is "no but close." The cases are the same diameter but the .357 is a little longer, long enough that it should not fit and allow the .38 chamber to close. This was the intention so people didn't pick up the new stronger .357 ammo and use it in older guns not designed for it. You can however shoot .38 out of a .357 chamber.

If you were talking about the .357 sig autoloader round then no because it's case diameter is the same as a .40 behind the neck.

 

[Jeremiah/Az]

I have never seen a .38 spcl. that would chamber a .357. They are the same diameter, but the .357 is longer.

 

[jglsprings]

I'll be rearranging the ammo cabinet to try to keep him from hurting himself with my .357 mags in his little .38.

That isn't going to happen either. I'm not sure which of the two of you are more confused.

 

[pnac]

Quote:
Will a 357 fit in a 38 cylinder? I'm assuming they are bored to just fit 38's, but curious.

The .357 Mag was originally designed as a longer cartridge to avoid precisely this dilemma; meaning that one could not close a .38 special with .357 mags loaded into it.

Back in the olden days a popular conversion (not by me, thank God) was to lengthen the chambers in Mod 10 S&W Heavy Barrel (.38Spl) to .357 magnum specs turning into an equivalent of Mod 13 S&W (.357 Mag).