Stunned into silence!!

Shin-Tao

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I was having a three person debate on the election and gun control at work.
I felt I was making some headway with the anti with my facts and logical thought chains.

Then suddenly, without preamble, the anti says:"Well, I just think the Government should put chips in our heads to keep us from being so violent."

I simply stopped talking and I'm pretty sure my mouth dropped open.

"Well, you know, like a little microchip or something..."

I admit that I couldn't bring myself to continue talking and I walked away.

I heard the third guy ask: "You trust the government not to put anything else in those chips?"

Someone please tell me that this level of idiocy is rare.
 
Sounds like more chlorine is needed in the gene pool ;)

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Sounds like something out of the comic books where a helmet is attached to the superhero's head and scrambles their brain. Yep, I'm sure all Americans trust the government to implant some device beneath their skin. Only a authoritarian would make such a recommendation since the rest of us would find this to be too intrusive.

If you want to stop violence, stop the media from propagating it. The bombardment of killings or other acts of violence in the media is a major contributing factor to the level of violence in our society today. Now, let's have attorneys suing Hollywood instead of going after the gun industry. Besides Lt. Col. Dave Grossman's study, there should be other scholarly studies which would help with the burden of proof against the media.
 
Well that blows the idea of logical discussion out of the water. There are more of these idiots out there then many of us would like to admit I'm afraid. You know, as much as they crave to serve and be molested by their .gov sometimes I wish they'd just go ahead and destroy themselves, they are truely to disgusting, stupid and evil to live.
 
It sounds like she has watched too much Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

One of the characters, Spike, is a Vampire with a chip in his head that causes him severe pain whenever he hurts a person.

We all have our dirty little secrets. This is mine.
 
Never underestimate the power of large groups of stupid people...

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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." - H.L. Mencken
 
Let me get this straight... This is, like, an adult? Someone who oh, say, votes? Perhaps it's time to stop re-arranging the deck furniture and lower the lifeboats...

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sometimes i think that my little old 6 an a half inch dagger bladed john ek like fighting knife would make these people at least a little easyer to deal with.
or sometimes i just think they need to be sent back to god for a refund or at least an exchange, since he forgot to put in their smarts.
and then after the killing them urge has subsided i just want to kick them.
and after that has gone away i just leave.

some people just aint worth killin, kicking or talking to.
 
A microchip...from the Government. The same Government that buys everything from the lowest bidder.

This person wants something made by Microsoft interfacing with his bio-harddrive???

Bloody hell, when I went to sleep I was still on the Earth, what happened to it???

LawDog
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 4V50 Gary:
If you want to stop violence, stop the media from propagating it. The bombardment of killings or other acts of violence in the media is a major contributing factor to the level of violence in our society today. Now, let's have attorneys suing Hollywood instead of going after the gun industry. Besides Lt. Col. Dave Grossman's study, there should be other scholarly studies which would help with the burden of proof against the media.[/quote]

"Only an authoritarian would make this kind of suggestion because the rest of us would find it to be too intrusive." Those are your words.

The first amendment is just as important to me as the second. There should be no repeat no government control of media content. None. Publishers, broadcasters, webmasters--everyone--should be free to print, broadcast or post _anything_, and to sell it (or give it away) to anyone who wishes to buy it, subject only to the right of parents to forbid THEIR OWN children to have it.

Even if you don't agree with such an absolutist position on free speech and free press issues, surely you understand that a government which can control what you're allowed to see is just as dangerous as one which is allowed to decide what weapons you're allowed to own? That power will be abused. Not "might be"--WILL be. Because people who become livid at the thought of gun control will cooperate with controls of, say, publications or broadcasters, and vice versa--and the politician will pander to both of them for votes, get elected and outlaw _both_ things.

Would you be willing to allow broadcasters and publishers to produce and sell anything they like...if, in return, YOU were free to buy, sell, own, and carry any weapon YOU liked? If not, you should understand that well-meaning people just like you (but on the other side of the gun issue) are going to fight you tooth and nail forever. For exactly the same reasons.
 
In that case Al, can I have some kiddie-porn please? You know, the kind showing some 7 year old getting rammed up his/her ....

Society needs SOME standards dude. Else Anarchy reigns. Get a grip.

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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." - H.L. Mencken
 
Standards? YES

Government enforced? NO

However, I'm refering to an ideal situation where people actually care what happens beyond their little world/neighborhood.

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John/az
"When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!

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Do it for the children...
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LawDog:
A microchip...from the Government. The same Government that buys everything from the lowest bidder.[/quote]

HEHE :D I hope you didn't waste too much time hiding this fellers remains, I don't thin anybodies going to come looking for him.



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IF you're not willing to die for your rights/beliefs, don't try to take mine.
 
Ummm...folks...it's coming. Do a search for 'digital angel'...

first they sell it for cattle and pets...

then for prisoners and people on parol...

then to expecting mothers...

the military...

then as a way to get rid of lines in the store..credit cards you can lose...stolen identity..

It's already here and the propaganda in media is getting it into peoples heads that it is 'good'.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>:"Well, I just think the Government should put chips in our heads to keep us from being so violent."[/quote]

I need a few volunteers so that we may take out the trash in a quick efficient manner...yea..thats it! :D


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Try to take away my gun...and you will see my 2nd Amendment Right in ACTION!!! -Me

The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crime. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." Thomas Jefferson
 
Al,

Being very aware and appreciative of the First Amendment, I'm not calling for the media to be regulated by the Government. Nowhere in my statement have I proposed for the Government, whether Fed or local, to impose controls on the media. Rather, my position is that the media shouldn't use the First Amendment as a shield or excuse for propagating violence on our society. The media needs to recognize its responsibility and regulate itself accordingly. Advocating for private attorneys to sue the media on behalf of victims and their relatives is but another means of killing two birds with one stone (take care of the media moguls who would see us disarmed and keep the attorneys busy and off gun manufacturer's back).


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