stopping power COM: only shotguns (slug and/or buckshoot) drop wild boar instantly

Down here in SE Louisiana we mostly bait for hogs. This method usually brings 'em in pretty close (usually within 25 yards). We've mostly used "0" and "00" buckshot applied to the neck region.

Between my 4 sons and the guys we hunt with, we've probably taken over a hundred hogs in the last 15 years or so. Not one buckshot neck-shot hog ever ran off.

After reading all these BS accusations aimed at Para Bellum's podnah I called the guys to collect some info. The young men could not remember any hogs running off after being shot in the neck with buckshot.
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Bigoledude

You obviously have much more experience with buckshot than I do....At this point I have shot one boar with buckshot. My experience will probably stop there.

I just don't see where it's hard to believe that an animal would drop instantly when plastered in the shoulder/neck/head area with 8 or 9 .33 caliber projectiles doing about 1300 to 1400 fps. And inside 25 yards!
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I do. I shot a boar....The one in the picture twice with buckshot at a range of 11 and 9 yards. I skinned and processed the animal. Both shots were good shots. The head shot did not penetrate the skull and the neck shot did not hit anything that would put the animal down on the spot. The 357 magnum put the animal down on the spot. I cannot speak to your experiences, only mine, and based on my limited experience I won't try buckshot again.

I have killed hogs with a 357 magnum, 44 magnum, 30-30, 270, 308, 30-06 300 WSM, and 300 Win Mag. I find that rifle rounds are entirely adequate for the task.

I killed 3 more hogs last Friday in the rain. All three were shot with a 300 Winchester magnum with the first to 80 and 120 pounds heart and lung, the last 250+ (Our scale only goes to 250 and he bottomed it out) in the head. The 250+ boar was easily twice as large as the hog in the picture of my previous post.

I am going hog hunting this weekend. I will let you all know how I do.


The moral of the story is sometimes they fall over sometimes they don't you simply can't make an always or never staement when it comes to hunting.
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H&H hunter is correct.

Charles
 
hi all new to site

I've been sitting here reading this thread, I love to hog hunt and I do most of my hunting in thick cane breaks where 10 yrds is a long shot and you don't have a lot of time to place a shot, so I use 00 buck and have used it with great results... I've never had many run far if at all, but at the range I'm shooting I sometime put 2 loads of it on them before they can react.... If you guys want excitment try stalking hogs in thick cover... I have killed as many as 10 in a day in se OK
 
Just saw it this afternoon

Hubster put on the "Hunting University" show this afternoon, and I saw the president of CZ-USA drop an oryx where it stood; and saw the sales VP of TC do the same with a good size axis buck.

Sorry, but this is just not true.

Granted it won't always happen, and lots of deer will run for a little ways; but it DOES happen.

Springmom
 
How come when a duck is properly with #6 or #4 shot...
You never see them fly another 100 yds before they fall...
Unless it was a poor hit? :rolleyes:

In my experience... at least 98% of well-hit animals have fallen within a few yards, if not on the very spot...

The other's were already excited by the hunting pressure or already alert to the hunters who shot them...

None of my properly hit animals have run off to hide...

...and the ones that I've seen run off, were usually poorly hit... :(

My advice? Use enough gun!
 
"told that no rifle-hit to the body, no matter whether .308, .300WinMag or .223 ever dropped any game he shot or has seen being shot. They all ran away, some far, some not so far but no animal was stopped. Not even with heart- or lung hits"
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416 rigby does wonders. So does 444 or 450, even 30/30 hp will do it. Will let you know about 45/70 when the gun finally gets here.
 
beware of 'experts' armed with anecdotal facts.:D

Personally, I think your friend's opinions on this are not in line with what I have experienced, and what has been reported in the various media. I use a Springfield Armory SOCOM, and with Federal Classic 150 grain SP, the hogs pretty much drop where they are shot.
 
Sounds Like Hog Wash To Me

I have been hog hunting with a friend of mine at a hunting club in Florida and they have had numerous instant kills with handguns and rifles on some large hogs. While I was in Florida I went on a hunt with him and saw a guy shoot his hog with a .223 and the hog dropped and never moved while his brother's hog took two slugs from a 2o gauge before it dropped. My friend works as a guide for a hog hunting club in Okachobee.
 
for my bit here, although it's been well said already... i can't speak for boar but game in general i had a clean heart shot on a whitetail with a 30-06 almost a year ago, and she went down so fast i didn't see it, although i did see some other deer heading into the woods. i walked down to look for blood and was pretty confused until i spotted her, there were still some corn stalks on the edge that'd obscured it a little. if that's not the proverbial ton of bricks i don't know what is.
 
My friend and I use .270's for hogs. Sometimes they drop like stones, sometimes they run a bit...

As far as lions and tigers in Africa, last time I checked, tweren't no tigers in Africa...
 
Have hunted hogs in west texas and can only tell you what has happened to me. With my 99 .284 I hit a hog at about 200 yards through both lungs and it ran at lease 100 yards. My friend, ranch owner, hit one about 250 lbs through the top of the heart full loadand iand 165 gr and it ran at least 200 yards. He thought he missed it and didn't even go after it. I found it the next day and photoed the shot placement. One about 350 lbs I hit at about 250 yards in a field with 165 gr .300 rem ultra loaded down a bit through the lungs and it traveled at least 150 yards. Most of the hogs I shoot drop, but as stated above they are like tanks. What my placement is these days is to break the shoulder when rifle shooting at distance and not go for heart/lung placement. By the way, they are normally moving slowly accross the field at any where from 100 to 400 yards away at a walk.
 
Well Rich, you put a big enough bullet travelling at a high enough velocity low into the shield and the results are about the same as with Deer, Elk and Bear, they fall down, kick a little, and then slowly relax into death.
 
Hmmm. Is that from a broken shoulder or from damage to the heart/lungs? And how does one aim for the "shoulder" while avoiding the heart and lungs?
Rich
 
Q:1.The falling down or the dying part?
Q:2.As for Texfar's comment I do not know how he shoots for the shoulder and misses heart/lung. Extreme angle? Don't know.
 
A broken shoulder does not always equal falling down or even certain death, but "a big enough bullet travelling at a high enough velocity" through BOTH, always does.
 
The older I get, the further behind the times I find myself.

"Always"....that's pretty good. Gotta get me one of them there "always" calibers; or one of the ones that put hogs down by breaking their shoulders.
Rich
 
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