KaliGunner
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Some of you may have already read this...fellow AR15.com'ers.
I too am a refugee from AR15.com, somehow wandered my way over here
How strange do I feel
Ok, here it goes...
Last Saturday, my friend and I went up to the Angeles National Forest, here in Southern California, to the Burro Canyon range. It's an established range, not a free-for-all spot. Especially now that my AR15 is considered an "assault weapon", I can only shoot it at established ranges.
My friend and I go up there, blast our requisite rounds.
I had my AR15, SKS, Mossberg 500.
Friend had his SKS, AK, Enfield .303.
On the way down from the range, I drove very conservatively, was sure not to break any speed limits. Add that to the fact I was unable to, as I was following another person who was going about 35mph in a 40mph zone.
So as soon as we get out of the forest area, an LA County Sheriff officer has his lights and sirens on and tells me to pull over.
We pull over, I present him with my license/reg.
He tells us to get out of the car, and give him my keys. He frisks/searches us. Then tells us to sit on that curb over there.
I ask him politely why I was pulled over.
He said "this is the way we do things".
He opens my trunk, and then takes the guns out of the cases one by one. Places them all in his car. He then sits in his patrol car for a good while running them through a check system of some sort.
To make matters worse on a side note, these old folks drove up and said "lock those gun-runners away for a long time".
Grr. Thanks a whole f********* lot.
Then he comes back and says that "there is no record of these guns in the database. Did you steal these guns??" (Very accusational tone).
We said that we got them at the gun store, did all the paperwork, DROS, background check, etc. etc. etc.
(Isn't it law that the state removes all record of a gun after a certain amount of time on a long gun, in California?, only handguns are registered).
He tells us that we better go to the county office and have these guns registered to us, because we are currently felons for keeping these guns in our possession.
He then asks us "where are the SKS magazines?"
We said we don't have any, that our SKS's are the original, not the sporter, we keep them in the fixed box, stock manner, no mods. He then asks us again. We tell him that the only mags we have are those for my AR15 and his AK. He goes through the car and searches through, then he finds a 9mm casing. He then asks us unpolitely "WHERE ARE YOU HIDING THE PISTOL".
We said we don't have one, it must be stray cases flying in the bag from the range. So he goes and searches my car more and more and more.
After a good half-hour or so, he lets us go. He didn't cite us for anything, didnt give me an explanation. I still dont see why we were pulled over. I still dont know the "just cause" for this.
We weren't speeding.
We didn't look like "hoodlums".
Just ordinary upstanding people.
My biggest question of all is HOW THE H*** DID HE KNOW WE HAD FIREARMS IN THE CAR?!?!?!
I'm angry and ticked.
It's like someone at AR15.com said to me:
"Guilty until proven innocent"
I really experienced it this weekend.
I too am a refugee from AR15.com, somehow wandered my way over here
How strange do I feel
Ok, here it goes...
Last Saturday, my friend and I went up to the Angeles National Forest, here in Southern California, to the Burro Canyon range. It's an established range, not a free-for-all spot. Especially now that my AR15 is considered an "assault weapon", I can only shoot it at established ranges.
My friend and I go up there, blast our requisite rounds.
I had my AR15, SKS, Mossberg 500.
Friend had his SKS, AK, Enfield .303.
On the way down from the range, I drove very conservatively, was sure not to break any speed limits. Add that to the fact I was unable to, as I was following another person who was going about 35mph in a 40mph zone.
So as soon as we get out of the forest area, an LA County Sheriff officer has his lights and sirens on and tells me to pull over.
We pull over, I present him with my license/reg.
He tells us to get out of the car, and give him my keys. He frisks/searches us. Then tells us to sit on that curb over there.
I ask him politely why I was pulled over.
He said "this is the way we do things".
He opens my trunk, and then takes the guns out of the cases one by one. Places them all in his car. He then sits in his patrol car for a good while running them through a check system of some sort.
To make matters worse on a side note, these old folks drove up and said "lock those gun-runners away for a long time".
Grr. Thanks a whole f********* lot.
Then he comes back and says that "there is no record of these guns in the database. Did you steal these guns??" (Very accusational tone).
We said that we got them at the gun store, did all the paperwork, DROS, background check, etc. etc. etc.
(Isn't it law that the state removes all record of a gun after a certain amount of time on a long gun, in California?, only handguns are registered).
He tells us that we better go to the county office and have these guns registered to us, because we are currently felons for keeping these guns in our possession.
He then asks us "where are the SKS magazines?"
We said we don't have any, that our SKS's are the original, not the sporter, we keep them in the fixed box, stock manner, no mods. He then asks us again. We tell him that the only mags we have are those for my AR15 and his AK. He goes through the car and searches through, then he finds a 9mm casing. He then asks us unpolitely "WHERE ARE YOU HIDING THE PISTOL".
We said we don't have one, it must be stray cases flying in the bag from the range. So he goes and searches my car more and more and more.
After a good half-hour or so, he lets us go. He didn't cite us for anything, didnt give me an explanation. I still dont see why we were pulled over. I still dont know the "just cause" for this.
We weren't speeding.
We didn't look like "hoodlums".
Just ordinary upstanding people.
My biggest question of all is HOW THE H*** DID HE KNOW WE HAD FIREARMS IN THE CAR?!?!?!
I'm angry and ticked.
It's like someone at AR15.com said to me:
"Guilty until proven innocent"
I really experienced it this weekend.