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Starting a political party
- Thread starter Dangus
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TheBluesMan
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Dangus,
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In starting a party I recomend one first set his sights very low. In this I mean try to get into government on the lowest levels possible. Town council, things like that. From there, use the contacts and experiance you've gained to move up to state legislature. Once there things will begin to move. Begin then to push the party and solicit membership.
Promote the party and it's chosen candidates for state Senate and Congressional seats.
It is important to ally this new party with some already within the system. In certain elections, when needed, this new party should back the leading candidate from the Republicrats that promises to do the less damage to RKBA, private property, 4th amendment, etc. For example, if this party were to suddenly exist today it should campaign for George W. Bush.
Promote the party and it's chosen candidates for state Senate and Congressional seats.
It is important to ally this new party with some already within the system. In certain elections, when needed, this new party should back the leading candidate from the Republicrats that promises to do the less damage to RKBA, private property, 4th amendment, etc. For example, if this party were to suddenly exist today it should campaign for George W. Bush.
Jeff Thomas
New member
Dangus, perhaps I missed this above ... how does your party specifically differ from the Libertarian party?
Live and let live. Regards from AZ
Live and let live. Regards from AZ
Idealogically not much, but organizationally, quite a bit. While the idea for this is still being fleshed out, I would intend to make the party more active than current parties, with regular meetings rather than just meetings during the caucuses(sp?). The libertarian party seems to have a lot of problems getting it's agenda into the public eye, I hope to found an organization that can fix some of those problems. I'm toying with a few ideas though regarding this.
First of all, this whole concept is based on my experiences here and at Ars Technica. I have seen the energy and the ideals that motivate all this discussion, and I think so much potential here is untapped. Wouldn't it be nice if TFL could speak with a strong voice of organization? The big thing the Dems have always had on their side is Unions which act as political parties for them, always organized and ready to speak. I hardly want to unionize TFL, but it would be nice to have a group that could directly represent all the energy here.
The ideas I have been toying with are:
A) Making this political party a "candidate-less" party, which picks candidates from other parties which best meet our interests, or independants, and offer them our support.
B) Organize it as a political action team which represents TFL, but doesn't function like a traditional political party. Instead, we would simply act as a non-partisan activist group for true civil rights, not the leftist civil rights.
C) Become a full-out political party, with local candidates as well as supporting any idependants which were in tune with our agendas.
What do you guys think?
First of all, this whole concept is based on my experiences here and at Ars Technica. I have seen the energy and the ideals that motivate all this discussion, and I think so much potential here is untapped. Wouldn't it be nice if TFL could speak with a strong voice of organization? The big thing the Dems have always had on their side is Unions which act as political parties for them, always organized and ready to speak. I hardly want to unionize TFL, but it would be nice to have a group that could directly represent all the energy here.
The ideas I have been toying with are:
A) Making this political party a "candidate-less" party, which picks candidates from other parties which best meet our interests, or independants, and offer them our support.
B) Organize it as a political action team which represents TFL, but doesn't function like a traditional political party. Instead, we would simply act as a non-partisan activist group for true civil rights, not the leftist civil rights.
C) Become a full-out political party, with local candidates as well as supporting any idependants which were in tune with our agendas.
What do you guys think?
Jeff Thomas
New member
To be honest, I think your efforts could be better spent.
For example, learn more about the Libertarians. Many people don't realize it, but I believe they are still the third largest political party in this country. While they have some organizational irritations, they still have a solid philosophical base, IMHO.
Consider learning more about them. Talk to people at the Cato Institute, and get some opinions from them.
Good luck, and best wishes. Try to remember two important points ... the freedom movement has always been a minority movement in this country, and the fight for freedom never ends. Never.
Live and let live. Regards from AZ
For example, learn more about the Libertarians. Many people don't realize it, but I believe they are still the third largest political party in this country. While they have some organizational irritations, they still have a solid philosophical base, IMHO.
Consider learning more about them. Talk to people at the Cato Institute, and get some opinions from them.
Good luck, and best wishes. Try to remember two important points ... the freedom movement has always been a minority movement in this country, and the fight for freedom never ends. Never.
Live and let live. Regards from AZ
TFL could easily be a Political Action Group of some sort. There are thousands of us here. We are all pro-freedom.
If we could just follow the anti's example and do something...
Support the right candidates, donate, write, call, e-mail. We all have computer, printers, the internet. Potential!
Think, then do.
If we could just follow the anti's example and do something...
Support the right candidates, donate, write, call, e-mail. We all have computer, printers, the internet. Potential!
Think, then do.
The only problem is that TFL is a single topic channel. We all tend to agree on RKBA and related issues. But we don't discuss any of the others because it tends to breed hate and discontent. A TFL based party would fly apart as soon as we hit Abortion or Prayer in School. A third party wanna-be would need to address all issues. They couldn't just be ignored. A PAC however is quite possible, but why add another when we can support an existing organization?
Just playing Devil's Advocate in the corner.
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Just playing Devil's Advocate in the corner.
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Go Ugly Early.
AD HOMINEM; Helping Morons argue since 1549!!!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>A PAC however is quite possible, but why add another when we can support an existing organization?[/quote]
Because I don't like the way a lot of the other orgs are run and how their framework is set up. TFL has a special community of very vocal and intelligent people who are more forward and proactive than the average NRA people I have met, and certainly more than the average republican. I just would like to somehow make us more directly effective here. Frankly we probably have more thought going on here every day than in the whole legislature in washinton. How many of our reps really have heard much or anything about The Firing Line though? We talk about issues here that they are too scared to even touch. Plus, their debate systems don't really allow as much debating as necessary outside of actually considering the passage of laws, as where we can basically talk about anything.
Why waste the potential here? We are very strong, and an organizational framework, even a very casual one, would be very effective in my opinion.
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The Alcove
I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist
The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me
Because I don't like the way a lot of the other orgs are run and how their framework is set up. TFL has a special community of very vocal and intelligent people who are more forward and proactive than the average NRA people I have met, and certainly more than the average republican. I just would like to somehow make us more directly effective here. Frankly we probably have more thought going on here every day than in the whole legislature in washinton. How many of our reps really have heard much or anything about The Firing Line though? We talk about issues here that they are too scared to even touch. Plus, their debate systems don't really allow as much debating as necessary outside of actually considering the passage of laws, as where we can basically talk about anything.
Why waste the potential here? We are very strong, and an organizational framework, even a very casual one, would be very effective in my opinion.
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The Alcove
I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist
The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me