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Springfield M1A or M14?
- Thread starter Monkeyleg
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Technically, yes, it's exactly like calling an M16 an AR-15. Even the semi-only (at least the later, production ones, don't know about prototypes) M14s had auto-parts, they were just locked into position. CO's had the "keys" more or less, I believe.
But really, what else ya gonna call 'em? Springfield's copyrighted M1A. M-14/S is a mouthful.. I usually just say "M14" or "M14 clone" and explain if I have to from there.
Oh, one last aside.. the USGI stock, made as it is for the reciever with a connecting rod attatched, is inletted too big. This can let your op rod retaining pin drift lose with firing. This can result in your oprod guide rod banging your mag. Much bad juju.. if buying surplus stock, is good to be filling in, as recommended in earlier threads.
-K
But really, what else ya gonna call 'em? Springfield's copyrighted M1A. M-14/S is a mouthful.. I usually just say "M14" or "M14 clone" and explain if I have to from there.
Oh, one last aside.. the USGI stock, made as it is for the reciever with a connecting rod attatched, is inletted too big. This can let your op rod retaining pin drift lose with firing. This can result in your oprod guide rod banging your mag. Much bad juju.. if buying surplus stock, is good to be filling in, as recommended in earlier threads.
-K
Kaylee, thanks for the clarification. I remember, if somewhat hazily, a Tales of the Gun or some such series that indicated that the early M14's were semi-auto only. Maybe they were prototypes, maybe they were bastard children. But I do remember having heard of them.
Something tells me that buying a SA M1A would be a lot cheaper. But I can't get past the plastic barrel shroud on a rifle that costs $1200 to $1800.
Something tells me that buying a SA M1A would be a lot cheaper. But I can't get past the plastic barrel shroud on a rifle that costs $1200 to $1800.
Hi, guys,
Gewehr98, true, but I think when most people use the term "M14" without qualification they mean the selective fire rifle made by/for the U.S. government. Springfield Armory, Inc. adopted the term "M1A" to avoid problems since they were also using the name of one of the makers of the original M14 and there could have been legal problems if the marking (in spite of the circle R) was duplicated.
Kaylee, the M14 was issued with a selector lock in place to restrict it to semi-auto fire. This does not, by the way, make such a rifle a semi-auto for legal purposes; it is still a selective fire weapon or machinegun under the law. The selector switch and spring were in a little bag attached to the rifle and could be installed by a company armorer at the direction of the commanding officer. It requires a couple of punches and a few minutes to install the selector and spring. (Most commanders did not allow the change unless the rifle was equipped for use in the squad automatic role.)
Jim
Gewehr98, true, but I think when most people use the term "M14" without qualification they mean the selective fire rifle made by/for the U.S. government. Springfield Armory, Inc. adopted the term "M1A" to avoid problems since they were also using the name of one of the makers of the original M14 and there could have been legal problems if the marking (in spite of the circle R) was duplicated.
Kaylee, the M14 was issued with a selector lock in place to restrict it to semi-auto fire. This does not, by the way, make such a rifle a semi-auto for legal purposes; it is still a selective fire weapon or machinegun under the law. The selector switch and spring were in a little bag attached to the rifle and could be installed by a company armorer at the direction of the commanding officer. It requires a couple of punches and a few minutes to install the selector and spring. (Most commanders did not allow the change unless the rifle was equipped for use in the squad automatic role.)
Jim
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Where are you finding such kits?
you might consider starting with a FAL. Not as much class as a M1A, but same round, semi-auto, fun-to-shoot. And kit guns can be had for $600 or less.
Where are you finding such kits?
There are deals to be had.
I just bought a pre ban M1A service grade rifle in near new condition with 4 mags for $810. I was in the right place at the right time. If you keep your eyes open you can find affordable M1As.
I'm going to shoot it for the first time tomarrow. I'm giddy as a school girl! My FAL is very jealous!
I just bought a pre ban M1A service grade rifle in near new condition with 4 mags for $810. I was in the right place at the right time. If you keep your eyes open you can find affordable M1As.
I'm going to shoot it for the first time tomarrow. I'm giddy as a school girl! My FAL is very jealous!
Deals to be had.
It's true. I bought my "Loaded" for about $200 less than the lowest retail I saw for it. The guy had bought it, cleaned it and greased it, and then wrecked his car.
I was the first guy who responded to his ad on (now-defunct) Battlerifles.com and offered him his asking price. He lived in my state, and he included the Scott Duff book, a couple of tools, the coupon for $150 in accessories and (get this) an A.R.M.S. scope mount.
So keep your eyes open and your web connection on. These rifles are a delight.
Regards.
It's true. I bought my "Loaded" for about $200 less than the lowest retail I saw for it. The guy had bought it, cleaned it and greased it, and then wrecked his car.
I was the first guy who responded to his ad on (now-defunct) Battlerifles.com and offered him his asking price. He lived in my state, and he included the Scott Duff book, a couple of tools, the coupon for $150 in accessories and (get this) an A.R.M.S. scope mount.
So keep your eyes open and your web connection on. These rifles are a delight.
Regards.
My FAL will now need a coating of cosmoline so it doesn't rust from disuse!
This M1A allowed me to make consistant hits on the head sized 300 yd gong using surplus Argentine ball ammo. It is an absolute joy to shoot!
I like my FAL but the superior sight and trigger on the M1A make for a superior rifle. I don't know how I did without one for so long.
This M1A allowed me to make consistant hits on the head sized 300 yd gong using surplus Argentine ball ammo. It is an absolute joy to shoot!
I like my FAL but the superior sight and trigger on the M1A make for a superior rifle. I don't know how I did without one for so long.