##Springfield Armory XD-9 vs. Sig Pro SP2009 - Which is the better gun?

I read on the www.hs2000talk.com forum that the hs2000 has FTE problems. There was several people on that board that admitted to having FTE problems. One guy said it was due to reloads, some said it was due to Winchester ammo, one guy said it happened with all kinds of ammo. Does the XD have FTE problems? Have they corrected this?
 
Some bulk Winchester "White Box" from the lots that went to Wally World for their Sooper Valu Bullet Bundles had seriously out-of-spec rim thickness. Caused FTE's in more than just HS2k's.

Wally World pulled all the stuff from that lot off the shelves eventually, IIRC.
 
"Has anyone with a Springfield XD experienced FTE or jamming?"

Nope. I have the HS/XD in 9mm, and have shot several thousand rounds through it (including Winchester White Box), without a single burp of any kind -- none.

I also have the XD40 -- a much more recent purchase -- with several hundred rounds through it. No FT-anything. It shoots just like my HS.
 
My friend had an HS with a defective extractor. The problem was HS arms had no spare new parts so they gave him two used extractors out of defective guns which didn't fix the problem. He sold the gun right before springfield announced that they would be selling the XD. I have a HS and it runs like a top. Mark
 
I'll just say the Sigpro 2009 I have is great. And I can have the slide off the frame and the barrel, slide, frame, spring and guide rod laid out on the bench in less that 10 seconds. It isn't hard at all, it's just not as easy as a Glock, Sig Classic or Beretta. But nowhere near as hard as a S&W auto or a Kahr. Requires a little manual dexterity. Going back together it's a little longer. Who cares? Hours at the range enjoying a pistol, what's a few seconds longer to break it down and get it back together? I can't speak on the Springfield but I did see them at gun shows and preferred my Glock. They have had pretty favorable reviews though. The only drawback to the Sigpro is I'll probably never be able to put my hands on mags with capacities over 10. I just carry 3 mags instead of 2.
 
I find it funny that people will base their entire opinion of a gun on "how many times I've seen it at the range." Sheesh. I'm sure that my little P7 is not seen very often at the range, but everywhere it goes, people go "Oooooooh" and "Aaaaahhhh," when it comes out of the case.

As far as the SIG Pro is concerned, hold one. For a polymer gun it doesn't feel like plastic. I don't know how SIG did it. Hold a Glock or an HS/Spring. XD and it feels like a Mattel toy. That is not to say that they are bad guns -- quite the contrary -- but the Pro just feels better to me. The trigger on the Pro is an engineering marvel in its own right. You won't find a smoother trigger out-of-box anywhere. Couple that with SIG reliability, accuracy, and shear sex appeal and you've got a winner. (The decocker loosens up with break-in.) BTW, I've seen them go regularly on the Internet for $440, so the "big mean price difference for the SIG" is a load of crap.

Pay the extra $40 bucks.

I will concede, though, that the lack of "high"-caps (read: standard caps) for the Pro is a real drag. It would have been nice if SIG would have made the gun use the 226 mags. I would personally be inclined to get the Pro in 357SIG, that way I wouldn't feel so badly about the lost capacity, and I'd get a great round to boot.
 
tetchaje,
To each their own. Since the SIGPro works well for you, by all means, use it.

I've owned a SP2340 for close to 3 years and have put close to a case of ammo through it. I really want to like the pistol, and keep hoping that if I just shoot it enough, that it will grow on me. After the last range session, I've finally decided to sell it. That's a big step, as to me, the idea of willing giving up any of my handguns is sacrilegious. In fact, it will be the very first time I've ever sold a firearm.

What new purchase will I finance with the proceeds? A Springfield XD-357! As I said before, to each their own.
 
Like many that have responded, I own both the HS2000 (a little over a years experience with it now) and the SiGPro's (2009 & 2340). They are both very good pistols. You can't really go wrong with either.

If forced top choose in which order to buy them I would get the SiGPro first. My reason is that I prefer the DA/SA action of the SiGPro to the striker fired system on the Croation Sensation. But the decision would be so close that I might just change it tomorrow.
 
Better late then never? ;)

I've fired the sig pro in 40 and 357, the XD in 9 and 40.

Had frequent failures to go into battery w several different sig pros in 40 over a 6 month period. No problems w the 357 or the 40s when I dropped the 357 bbls in them. Beats me what was up.
DEA did test and approve the 40 sig pro for use; that means at least 3 guns had 10,000 rounds each put through them and they passed.

I like the XD better. Have had/seen the dreaded FTE with them too. No track record w any LE I am aware of in the USA.

Hey, I've seen new Glocks, SIGs, and Berettas choke too. Glock has had probs w bad runs of trigger springs, bars, extractors... NYPD has had/is having lottsa probs with extraction/ejection w their G19s, the military broke 18 Beretta slides, the Baltimore County PD had 52 SIG 226s crack slides and frames, know of a PD that rejected all their USPs after HK could not fix their problems...

Get what ya like, or flip a coin and like what ya get!? ;)
 
My two XD9s have been flawless!!! even with converted beretta mags. I have 1600 rounds through one of them and about 900 through the other. About half have been +P gold dot and Federal EFMJ. I have never owned a Sigpro, but have shot a few of them. I like the XD better because of:
lower bore axis, the consistent trigger pull, grip, and ease of operation (no decocker and easier to see and feel loaded chamber indicator, along with the striker "cocked" indicator)
 
One major item I failed to mention, in defense of the Sigpro. It is more accurate in my opinion. I figured I had to be fair. Both guns have combat accuracy, imo that is either weapon can easily score center of mass hits at 25 yards. The Sig is just a consistent small group shooter. I always seem to have a flyer or two with my XD.
 
XDs seem to have faster barrels; consistently shoot same ammo faster than the sig pro. Maybe cuzz the bbl is a tad longer (3.9 v 4.08).

So your bullets will hit the bad guy sooner.

Hey, we argue about fractions of inches all the time, why not fractions of seconds too? ;)
 
While we're debating the merits of the two, I though I'd add a picture of the HS2K and the SiGPro.

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