Sportsmans Warehouse, Casper WY

Clerk: "Can I help you sir?"
Me: "Yes. I am looking for a slant type muzzle break fo an AK project I am working on. Do you carry anything I could look at?"
Clerk: "We don't carry anything for those pieces of crap!"
Me: "Well I happen to like them."
Clerk "Thats your opinion."

"do you have a manager on duty now? I'd suggest that you apologize to me and call him down here right now, and maybe that will save your job. Otherwise, I'm not going to leave this place without your head in a shopping bag, you snot nosed little punk."

This is how you do it. You make it totally clear that the guy did something stupid, really stupid, and that it is something that would cost him his cushy job at a gun store if he worked for anyone with a little class. Then, you are letting him and his supervisor know that the customer is getting shafted, that they are being mistreated, and that the howard stern wannabee is driving off customers who are there to spend maybe even thousands of dollars on new firearms.

I'm on several other BBs; one in particular is really good about praising good service.

Every, and I mean EVERY time, someone comes in with a big complaint, I do two things.

I remind them that they need to burn that customer service line up.

Then, I C&P the initial complaint into an email to the CS dept. I point out that I take my business only to where service is good, and that screwing my friends is enough to lose them my business for a long, long time. Why should I trust a company that just did something horrible to a friend of mine?

The email also includes links to all pertinent pages and information about their screw up, specifically to show them that the thread has been viewed by hundreds of people, commented on by dozens of ****** off current and maybe former customers, and is generating the sort of publicity that only a really ****** off customer can create.

Some people have said that I should mind my own business.

It IS my business. If I have spent even a nickel at a company, and find out that they are doing things like this, I will stop doing business with them until it is fixed. Period.

A business is like a stubborn steer in the chutes at the slaughterhouse. It's not going to listen unless you kick it squarely in the nads, and shout in its ear.

You need to point out the errors they make, you need to demand satisfaction for those errors, you need to demand that they improve their service, and you must punish them.

Don't tell them you're never coming back, and don't tell them that the door is closed.

"fix this or I'm going to find a better company" works. Personally, when someone screws me, I tell them how angry I am, and add "I figure that it might be over a year or two before I get tired of driving past your store (home depot) to get to Lowes, and spending all of my money there, but if losing a few thousand bucks over the next two years to lowes is fine with you, I'll be glad to do it. I'm not coming back until you either (fix the problem) or I get tired of telling everyone I talk to about it."

I spent 20 years in management of retail establishments. People who lipped off like that weren't always fired, but I have more than once held one down and wrote "I'm an idiot" on his forehead with indelible marker.
 
Please don't think I am condeming Sportsmans Warehouse because of one bad experience. I just thought that this encounter with this one clerk needed to be put out there incase someone else had a similar run-in. Maybe, with a bit of discussion prior to being insulted, someone will be beter prepared to deal with the situation.

As for posting anonymously, I am more than happy to give anyone interested my contact info via PM. I have also emailed SW with a complaint and included my name and contact info.

Customers don't need treated badly. This was the first time it happened to me and I was caaught off guard. I would handl it differantly if I had it to do over.

Be on your toes! Thanks for all the advice.
 
I would certainly let the clerk's boss know. That clerk cost the store a sale by walking off, and may have cost them sigificant future business. What's more, it's not just about you and your sale, Wyoredman. What if you'd come in, not looking for an AK part, but looking to buy a whole gun? How many big sales has that clerk cost the store? Were I his boss, I'd want to know, especially if my Xmas bonus was tied to sales in my department . . .
 
Since you didn't handle the situation in the store when it happened, I would hope you got the name of the salesperson involved and included it in your complaint.

If I remember right, there was a thread here on TFL some time ago that was not dealing with the rudeness of personnel in LGS's but with the rudeness of some gunsmiths. As I read some of the opinions, it was clear that some would take being treated rudely by a competent gunsmith simply cause a good gunsmith is hard to find. True, a good gunsmith is hard to find, but .... what is it about some people that are willing to be un-warrantingly(spl) berated over any gun? :confused:
Didn't understand that philosophy then, still don't.

Glenn E Meyer,

Got a kick out of your last post about the rant by the salesman and his daughter.
Thanks for the chuckle.
 
The manager from the Casper SW store just called me and appologized for my bad experience. He sounded very sincere and I very much appriciated his call. He is going to have a talk with the employee. Thanks very much for everyones' thoughts and thanks to Jeff from SW for taking the time to answer my email with a phone call.
 
You did the manager a favor. He should want to know about incidents that cost sales. His staff member basically ran off a prospective customer by refusing to sell him what he wanted to buy and then insulting the customer for even wanting to buy it. Making a teachable mistake is one thing - that person would be gone if I managed him.
 
Wow that is a harsh story. Not sure what I would do, probably would have turned to anyone around to confirm I actually heard some one say something like that. Glad it turned out ok in the end. Makes you wish you had a tape recorder at that second huh...
 
I was in my local SW this weekend. I try not to shop there, but sometimes I go just to look at stuff. Overheard a middle aged man asking on of the gun salesman, "What is the difference in an AK and an SKS?" the attendant grabs another attendant and has him explain it, who in turn says pretty much the only different is one takes a magazine and the other has a fixed one. :|

The people working at SW could just as easily be working at Walmart. Not always exactly friendly, many times they are downright hateful. I like my local shop.
 
Best action would be immediately talk w/ mgr and get names. THEN follow up w/ written documentation to HQ and the mgr you talked with.
 
I purchase most of my reloading supplies from the sportsman warehouse in Mesa AZ. Frankly I find their prices competitive with most internet sellers. Cheaper when you consider freight.

The clerks have been generally most helpful and knowledgable.

I did encounter an ignorant witch in the store once. I was looking for moon clips for my 45acp revolver. The clerk informed me that revolvers did not take clips. I had purchased the clips at that store . I asked her to check in the back. She popped off.

I immediately contacted the store manager who took corrective action. He took the clerk to the back, located the clips, and I checked out and am happily shooting my revolver.

I also took the time to write a letter to the corporate offices thanking the Manager for his assistance. Even after two years the manager comes up and thanks me when he happens to see me in the store.

I generally write more positive letters on clerks than I do bad ones. When I have written a positive note to corporate offices, service at that store has generally improved.

I also like to see the look on the face of a store manager when I ask to speak to him/her and tell the manager that an employ did a good job.
 
The S/W's around here went belly up. Before they did however that type of treatment from the staff was common. Now the ones that went belly up are owned by some canadian firm but they havent changed their employees attitudes. I dont buy anything there anymore and havent for about five years. Lots of other places actually treat me like a human being and work hard to get my money.
 
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