I appreciate your kind concerns and I can fun with the best of them if I know thats what it is.my apoligys?You guys have given me a lot to think about. I've still got 3/4 can of powder,probably 10 years old,2 cans of american powder sticks I got on sale 2 yrs.ago and various boolits and sabots. I found my old brass powder measure so I just need to head to the range and start.Right now though,I'm headed to Lake Mead with the wife and pontoon boat for some striper and largemouth fishing.I didn't get to go muzzleloading this year because of some medical problems,I'm still mad about that,but if I can accomplish something at the range,that'll soothe me while I get ready for next year.Thanks again for your helps,I have a better Idea now of what I can and can't do,and I'll be leanin on you again.