SOMETHING BAD ABOUT THE G30..PLEASE!

Huge,

Please, think about what you are saying. If you know that a pistol is not designed to use certain types of ammo, and you attempt to use it in spite of that fact, any resulting failure is most certianly user induced!

True, the limitation may be considered a reason not to buy the pistol in the first place, but don't cite your failures as the pistols fault!
 
The major thing wrong with the Glock 30 is that it is in the wrong caliber! Now the 29 is in the right caliber. Cause we all know:
;-O "Da 10 be da ONE!"

Rob, how is your EAA Witness in 10mm working out, I am dangerously close to spending money I should be practicing service rifle with for one!

All in good and kind spirit,
Yours in Marksmanship
Michael
 
No, Rob.

For all its "perfection", a Glock is not sentient. It doesn't know if it is shooting reloads, remanufactured ammunition or factory loads. It functions within certain design parameters affected by case dimensions, overall length, pressures, etc. Loads using 185 or 200 gr. SWC, be they reloads or factory loads (i.e. Winchester/Federal 185 gr. Match) are not going to feed satisfactorily in a G30. The manual that came with my G30 didn't specify the exclusive use of RN FMJ, nor did it specifically PROHIBIT the use of SWC's, jacketed or copper washed notwithstanding. Does yours? The manual does discourage the use of reloads and lead bullets for liability, not functioning concerns. Limp wristing frailures are shooter induced. Shooting .40's in a Glock 20, or .22 Shorts in a chamber marked ".22 Long Rifle Only" -- shooter induced again. But my Glocks (and yours also, BTW), can't tell the difference between reloads, remanufactured, or factory fresh ammo with identical specs. Yet, it democratically fails to feed any SWC's, was pretty even-handed about rejecting one or two makes of primers, and couldn't decide if it wanted to fire PMC and WW "white box" ammo at all. Those problems, my friend, are limitations imposed by the pistol, not the judgment of the shooter. When we are forced to concentrate on feeding the pistol ammo IT likes, as opposed to IT reliably feeding what we like, we aren't training with the pistol, but being trained by it. Sorry. I'll stick with the Glock models (or other brands) that feed and fire everything I load them with and not make excuses for the G30's peculiarities. Still, what I find amazing is the number of Glock users that cite amazing numbers of lead bullets and reloads they have personally launched down Tenifered barrels in defense of accusations about unsupported chambers and Kb! (KA-booms). Those same shooters, like you, will then argue that Glocks aren't supposed to digest reloads when the charge on the indictment reads "failure to function". That particular logic, like the G30, has its share of flaws. God bless, Hugh
 
G30's don't shoot reloads?? Harkey!! They don't shoot swc. Does that mean that they don't shoot reloads??? Of course not. Would anybody here please cut and paste that part of the manual from another major manufacturer where they recommend shooting reloads? I'd really like to see that.

I've shot many of my fmj 230gr. reloads through a friend's G30. Shot 19 rounds, rapid-fire yesterday, using my G21 mag with a Grams extension. Not a burp. The firing mechanism of the G30 is designed exactly the same way as any other Glock, so you're not going to get light strikes unless you have a problem. (Like oil or crud in the striker channel)

My next gun buy will be a G30. I'll also use a Scherer 3.5# connector, Scherer mag extensions, and an A&G sleeve, when using my G21 mags.

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Shoot to kill; they'll stop when they're dead!
 
Huge, I didn't have any feeding problems with SWC in my 30, but I did have extraction problems. My G30 did eat up and extract my 250gr. RNFP IPSC loads. BTW, the 250gr. is the softest shooting major power factor in .45 I've shot yet. I agree with you that a gun should be able to at least feed and extract SWC.

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"Gun Control Only Protects Those in Power"
 
Tough one :)

The G30 cannot shoot SWC bullets period. If this is important, don't get a G30.

I've heard that the G30 has trouble shooting the .400 CORBON round, with the proper barrel of course -- but this is something I had read on the glocktalk list I believe.

I have to stop now because I'd have to switch to the good stuff.
 
You can shoot reloads in a G30 just as you can in any other gun. Don't use lead, use plated or jacketed bullets and don't use SWCs, other than that anything goes.
 
Re: reloads. Also make sure that the case rim are really chamfered or else it will hang up on the case mouth of the bullet that´s still in the mag during extraction thus having the same SWC malfunction effect.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mylhouse:
The thing shot great, however, it annoyed me that the mag would shift under your pinky when you grasped it. It didn't really effect my shooting, I just like a solid feel when I grip a pistol. My wife hated the thing because her finger got pinched between the mag and the bottom of the grip, causing a painful blood blister. I regret selling it because I paid a total of $535 for it, and sold it for $430 in a moment of desperation.
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Instead of taking a $105 loss in your investment, why didn't you invest $7 and replace the magazine's floorplate with a Pearce extension?

Better yet, why didn't you try a 9 round magazine with the G29 Pearce extension?

Oh well. People do what they gotta' do.
 
Funny how people hold Glocks to a mucher higher standard. If you have a fancy custom 1911 that is designed to shoot 230gr HydraShoks and that is it, then that is okay, you just shoot 230gr HydraShoks and nothing else.
But, of ALL the ammo out there available, the G30 is known not to like very specifically the 200 gr Semi Wad Cutter due to the angle of the feed ramp and the secondary lip on the 200gr SWC, specifically. You can shoot anything else you like, even 200 gr round nose or 200gr hollowpoints etc.

All four of my Glock 30's have been absolute gems. I carry them concealed without a problem, on my strong side hip with an untucked shirt and nothing more. I have never had a failure to fire in any way with any of them, and they are probably THE most accurate guns I have ever owned, bar none (including Sugs, HK's and customs) except perhaps my Glock 32 in .357 Sig which is amasingly precise.
Like everyone else, you will be VERY happy with your Glock 30.
 
Walter GAII said:

"Would anybody here please cut and paste that part of the manual from another major manufacturer where they recommend shooting reloads? I'd really like to see that."

Walter: The best place to look is the owner's manual from a firearm manufacturer that also sells reloading components, to wit:

Winchester (from a recent 94 Rifle)- "Use only ammunition for which the gun is chambered as indicated on the barrel, to prevent excessive pressure and possible serious injury. Incorrectly reloaded ammunition can cause serious personal injury and damage to the firearm due to excessive pressure. Reload only after proper instruction and in strict compliance with instruction and data contained in current reloading manuals."

I suggest that if Gaston Glock and Mike Dillon ever became partners, you'd see similar language coming out of Smyrna. Certainly, catastrophic failures from reloads sometimes occur. Reloaders who fail to duplicate, or worse, exceed dimensional and pressure limitations of a cartridge/firearm sometimes blow guns up. Those who exercise care and good judgment don't. Ultimately it's Newton, not Gaston, that tells a Glock it's OK to let go.
 
I would say .45 cal Glocks, at least until "broken in", are only 98% reliable, as opposed to 99.99% reliable for non-.45 Glocks - I've had a few stoppages with the CCI Blazer 200 gr hollow points, but this was when the G30 was new, and before the Wolff +10% power mag springs - I know, not much a reason, but it's something. Oh, and the fat grip.


On the favorable side, most everyone seems to be in agreement that G30s are quite impressive in accuracy, but I want to know whether anyone has actually tested a stock G30 in a Ransom Rest for accuracy, and if so, what are the results? Could it really be accurate enough to produce sub-2" groups at 25 yards?
 
The G30 is the only Glock.

I'm glad Walter is on this board to defend Glock's honor. (hehe)

If you must have such a useless firearm as a o/u, so be it. The Rock leans toward the practical side. Which is why I'm selling my P7M8.

The Rock
 
Huge,

We could go round-n-round, but I prefer to simply agree to disagree. See my many previous threads on the topic for more info.

Micheal,

10mm Witness has worked out very well. The only thing I need to do is replace the rear sight. It is much too tall and has some edges just screaming to get caught on something! It has been reliable and accurate though.
In fact, I just bought another one, a compact wonder finish... It will probably force me to get some better sights on it, as it may be more suited as a carry gun.

Everyone,

As if the shooting results weren't enough, I even got two complements on my choice of the G30 today in court! I still remember when wearing a Glock got nothing but pointing, funny looks, and comments about "new fangled gizmos" !!
 
On G30 and reloads. . . .

The stock striker doesn't hit very hard. I had a problem at first with light strikes; but I suspect it was slightly "high primers". After my first 20 reloads, I had no more failures. Unfortunately, I don't know if it was because I diligently pushed primers in, had cleaned the primer pockets, or used (still Winchester lp though of exactly same type) primers from another box.

I am VERY anal about how I press the primers in now; have had 200 reloads without failure (as opposed to before I was aware of primers, when 1 in 4 failed to light up).

Just a thought. I love the G30; but it's my first semiauto pistol. I DO shoot mostly (factory) win whitebox 230gr hardball - I think you can master any gun with a crate or 2 of factory ammo and free time.


Battler.
 
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