Some Mosin-Nagant eye candy...

tobnpr

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Yes, I know they look just fine in their original military dress- but they're no fun to shoot with that steel buttplate (nor are they as accurate as they could be). No collectibles were harmed here...;)

Haven't seen any good Mosin-Nagant projects here lately, so thought I'd share a couple of recent ones.

Feel free to add yours...

A more "traditional" project rifle, stock was cut from customer's Cherry laminated blank. Not sure how the wood will be finished, but it has character...

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This one, customer asked for something more "radical", the Pro-Mag stock had already been purchased...

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That customer's cherry laminate stock is one of the few, very few, after market M/N stocks I've seen that looks good. It is really sharp! On the other hand the Archangel is one of the cheapest, cheesiest looking stocks I've seen for this gun. As always, this is nothing more than one man's personal opinion. I realize some people like the Archangel.
 
The Cherry stock looks like it will finish nicely for prone and bench shooting, the Archangel has never impressed me. I have no use for a magazine that protrudes below the pistol grip on any bolt action rifle. However, to each their own I guess to quote reynolds357.

I like Mosin's for what they are and don't think I'd ever change them from original. I learned my lessons playing with sporterized Mauser rifles and they are expensive enough. I can't imagine putting that kind of money into a Mosin simply because the design makes things more difficult.
 
Pro-Mag's stock isn't to my taste either, but they've sold countless thousands of them. I'm often asked about them- they do offer a great value as far as features go; adjustable comb and buttplate, for around $150.

Never been one for DBM's either, in a bolt gun- but I'm apparently in the minority there, too. Far as the mag below the grip- something you get used to with the AR, supporting the rifle with the bottom of the mag.

I have three others in now that will be over a grand when done, two of them have match-grade McGowan barrels. I have no doubt they'll shoot sub-minute when done. The Mosin is scoped quite effectively with the Rock Solid mount- you couldn't have a one-piece mount/receiver be much more rigid.

The action gets a bad rep because it's rough- and it is. And while a custom will likely never shoot in the two's- they are capable of shooting better than most can drive them with a match barrel. IMO, the floating bolthead design was 100 years ahead of it's time (Savage 100 years later) and contributes greatly to its potential.
 
Very interesting, I own a Mosin and they are a joy to shoot. Not sure about spending so much money on one, but they do look very nice in the pictures.
 
tobnpr said:
Pro-Mag's stock isn't to my taste either, but they've sold countless thousands of them. I'm often asked about them- they do offer a great value as far as features go; adjustable comb and buttplate, for around $150.

Never been one for DBM's either, in a bolt gun- but I'm apparently in the minority there, too. Far as the mag below the grip- something you get used to with the AR, supporting the rifle with the bottom of the mag.

I don't mind DBM in a bolt action rifle at all, it has a purpose and I use rifles with them from time to time. I've never found it beneficial in 20 years in the Army and Army Reserves to ever use the magazine to support the M16/M4 rifle while shooting prone, if your mag is a little worn it will cause feeding issues. I can see where the Archangel stock with the protruding magazine may make you have to come up higher than I'd like while shooting prone off a bipod.

tobnpr said:
I have three others in now that will be over a grand when done, two of them have match-grade McGowan barrels. I have no doubt they'll shoot sub-minute when done. The Mosin is scoped quite effectively with the Rock Solid mount- you couldn't have a one-piece mount/receiver be much more rigid.

The action gets a bad rep because it's rough- and it is. And while a custom will likely never shoot in the two's- they are capable of shooting better than most can drive them with a match barrel. IMO, the floating bolthead design was 100 years ahead of it's time (Savage 100 years later) and contributes greatly to its potential.

I never said the Mosin couldn't shoot a lot of Finnish rifles prove that they can, I stated I see no reason to change them from original configuration. I sure wouldn't buy just an action and try to build a rifle out of one. I also don't fault you for making an living out of offering your service to people who want to put money in these rifles. I just wouldn't spend a dime on one for a custom build, unless I had the tools and the skills to build them myself just like Clark does in the gunsmithing forum.

There isn't a 100 year gap between the Savage 110 and the Mosin-Nagant rifles. The Savage was designed in 1958 and started production in 1963 and the Mosin in 1882-1891, so it takes some pretty fuzzy math to get 100 years out of that. While the Mosin used the floating bolt head many many years before the Savage, that wasn't why the 110 rifle was designed or produced.
 
I like the one with the wood stock. It needs to be stained with Minwax "Gunstock" color stain, then finished with either several layers of boiled linseed oil or a modern satin polyurethane.
 
Excuse the "fuzzy math"... I was being descriptive. I suppose I could have more correctly said "decades" or "generations" :rolleyes:

While the Mosin used the floating bolt head many many years before the Savage, that wasn't why the 110 rifle was designed or produced.

If the design was not intended as an improvement over the fixed, Mauser-style bolt/bolhead, what was their intent then?
 
tobnpr said:
If the design was not intended as an improvement over the fixed, Mauser-style bolt/bolhead, what was their intent then?

The whole design of the 110 rifle was to cut production costs, Savage was facing a lot of issues as a company back then.
 
Apparently, you don't know what you don't know.

Agtman, he never said they couldn't. He just pointed out these exact two guns have muzzle brakes that do make rifles significantly louder for people standing next to them. I had the same though, especially with the second rifle!
 
OK...this one without a muzzle brake, "Scout" type setup with shortened/re-crowned barrel. I would have preferred Cerakoting the bolt, not a fan of the shine on a rifle like this.

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How long is that barrel?

20" barrel (from the boltface). The mount from RSI is great for this purpose. Drilled and tapped to the receiver, there is a lug in front (that needs to be milled to fit) that drops into the front of the sight mount, and has a jack screw to set the mount level with the receiver. Once that's all done, drill through the lug using the original front pin holes in the sight base and insert a roll pin.

Much better than the others I've seen that use just set screws to hold the mount to the sight base and cannot reliably hold zero.
 
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