Solvent trap oil filter adapter

"I can't tell if you're playing devils advocate or if you really believe that there's no cheaper way to get the same effect and that it's necessary to spend $75 to keep from making a mess."


I'm just saying it works. Plastic bucket does too tho, that's what I usually use.
 
Staff, I would recommend that this thread be closed. It has been clearly explained as to the purpose of this device and I think it makes the forum look bad to the opposition who undoubtedly read the forum.
 
It's going to look just as bad when it's closed, unless it's deleted, and there's no reason to do that. The thing exists and there no sense pretending it doesn't. It's not hurting anything to talk about it, particularly since it's clear that most of us see the problems, don't encourage skirting the law and honestly discuss the issues.
 
Asides from the "novelty issue"....

Moderator Edit: As demonstrated in the posts following this one, most of the "information" presented in this post is false. In particular, it is absolutely illegal for a home user to replace the oil filter fitted to these types of silencers. /End Edit

On a serious note (ladies and gents) has anyone taken into account ... That not all "traps" are made equal??? By this i mean that there are design features on the inside of the filters (like metal bracing that is welded in place to route the oil into certain places and to hold the integrity of the walls in place)???? "Baffle-strikes" would be a joke in comparison when hitting these items in the hopes and attempt to get a hole in the middle of the filter so the subsequent ones would follow suit... Heat deformation of the dissimilar metals with inside the can..I can make a list, but I'm not going to. Please take a look at an used filter and ponder for a second what would happen if.... Lol!!!
Now, as far as the issue of the oil filter being the item in question.... I had contacted a BATFE rep at a local gunshow, and it was the most informative piece of information I had received from someone whose functions are to mainly guide and advice people to stay in the "good side of the law" because a visit from them would be costly no matter what.... But the "consumables" of the suppressor (wadding, screens, wipes to name a few ) are not considered part of the silencer since they are manufactured for a completely different purpose they do not fall under the scrutiny of the law (unless in this case, it is attached to an unregistered adapter). The adapter in itself is what would be considered a grey area object, since it has a "wink-wink" purpose and also could be used as a silencer part. The form 4 that would be filled out for this item (for it to be legal) and owned, the serial number on the adapter itself is what would be written down, not the filter attached to it because it would be considered a consumable that deteriorates after so many shots (wouldn't want to have a looooong paper trail tied to it every time you sent it back for another filter to be screwed onto it). So take it as you may.

As long as you don't change the shape, length (+\- .25") and the serialized info you are not required to mess with the ATF again for that suppressor.

Btw...there is a patent out for that, y'all should look it up ... Interesting read.
 
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And I believe you are completely wrong about the "consumables" part. :rolleyes:
Plus, who wants a huge oil filter on the end of your gun. The sights would be unuseable.
 
But the "consumables" of the suppressor (wadding, screens, wipes to name a few ) are not considered part of the silencer since they are manufactured for a completely different purpose they do not fall under the scrutiny of the law (unless in this case, it is attached to an unregistered adapter).
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As long as you don't change the shape, length (+\- .25") and the serialized info you are not required to mess with the ATF again for that suppressor.
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With the possible exception of wipes (which some sources state can be replaced by the user) the rest of your information is incorrect according to the ATF.

Here's a copy of the ATF letter.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc156/556308/pss1.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc156/556308/pss2.jpg
 
stbrnrd said:
The form 4 that would be filled out for this item (for it to be legal) and owned, the serial number on the adapter itself is what would be written down, not the filter attached to it because it would be considered a consumable that deteriorates after so many shots (wouldn't want to have a looooong paper trail tied to it every time you sent it back for another filter to be screwed onto it). So take it as you may.

As long as you don't change the shape, length (+\- .25") and the serialized info you are not required to mess with the ATF again for that suppressor.
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This is incorrect; you're basically encouraging people to break the law. When you have a registered oil filter silencer adaptor, it comes with one oil filter. This filter is not considered a consumable by the ATF; they consider it a silencer part. Therefore, you can't change it out yourself. When the filter wears out, you're supposed to send the whole thing back to the manufacturer for them to switch it for you. Last I checked, most companies only charged about $25 for the switch.

Sure, most owners of oil filter silencer adapters probably change out the filter themselves without ever getting caught, but that doesn't mean it's legal.
 
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