So how to convince my police chief not to restrict my LTC-A
- Thread starter SteelJM1
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The Pilgrim
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That $100 is only after the $99 mandatory safety class. The license is good for 6 years, at least according to the expiration date on mine.
Steel,
I definately would not recommend carrying openly in Massachusetts. People will call the police and report a "man with a gun." While it is not technically illegal, it will get your faced slammed againt hard concrete if you try it. I really don't want that to happen to you. Plus that will give the police in that communist state more reasons to finds you an "unsuitable" for having a gun. If you do open carry, you do so at your own risk. Remember that it's a mandatory one year sentence for carrying an illegal gun.
Here's a website that might be able to help you out.
http://www.massgunlaw.com/
~Steve
I definately would not recommend carrying openly in Massachusetts. People will call the police and report a "man with a gun." While it is not technically illegal, it will get your faced slammed againt hard concrete if you try it. I really don't want that to happen to you. Plus that will give the police in that communist state more reasons to finds you an "unsuitable" for having a gun. If you do open carry, you do so at your own risk. Remember that it's a mandatory one year sentence for carrying an illegal gun.
Here's a website that might be able to help you out.
http://www.massgunlaw.com/
~Steve
Yeah. After getting busted then indicted, they'd make it illegal in the lawbook, and i'd probably end up hurting the gun community more than anything, so ive rescinded that idea.
I dont think i can go through any more mass general law for the next couple of days. I'm lawed out. My eyes are falling out of my head because i've spent so much time here in front of the computer reading the laws and trying to get a grasp on them. All i can do now is hope for the best on Wednesday. I couldnt find anything about appealing the restrictions which i figure they did on purpose so that they could set up their own little loophole that they have here.
Its truly amazing how powerless we are against the government, which is exactly what the framers were trying to avoid methinks...
I dont think i can go through any more mass general law for the next couple of days. I'm lawed out. My eyes are falling out of my head because i've spent so much time here in front of the computer reading the laws and trying to get a grasp on them. All i can do now is hope for the best on Wednesday. I couldnt find anything about appealing the restrictions which i figure they did on purpose so that they could set up their own little loophole that they have here.
Its truly amazing how powerless we are against the government, which is exactly what the framers were trying to avoid methinks...
TargetTerror
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Steel, I am from MA, so I understand the process and what a pain it is. My chief tried to talk me down to a Class B, but I persisted for a Class A ALP. I would list the following reasons for wanting a Class A:
-You want to be able to buy and own high capacity magazines.
-You want to be able to buy and own handguns and rifles that will accept high capacity magazines (this is crucial, as with a Class B license, you cannot buy any gun that could accept a hicap)
For the "All lawful purposes" clause, I would say that "you want to be able to carry a firearm for personal protection should you wish." I like that language because 1) it is entirely within your right to want to do so, and perfectly reasonable and justifiable in the eyes of the law, and 2) it does not directly allude to a problem with crime in the Chief's jurisdiction.
I was told in my Safety Class that if you are denied your permit, you have the right to appeal. The chief must then explain why he has seen fit to deny you the right to carry. That he doesn't give out permits or that he doesn't like you are not valid reasons. I also hear that a letter from an attorney stating as much often changes their stance as well.
I would contact GOAL, at goal.org. They are fantastic and very helpful for the licensing process.
-You want to be able to buy and own high capacity magazines.
-You want to be able to buy and own handguns and rifles that will accept high capacity magazines (this is crucial, as with a Class B license, you cannot buy any gun that could accept a hicap)
For the "All lawful purposes" clause, I would say that "you want to be able to carry a firearm for personal protection should you wish." I like that language because 1) it is entirely within your right to want to do so, and perfectly reasonable and justifiable in the eyes of the law, and 2) it does not directly allude to a problem with crime in the Chief's jurisdiction.
I was told in my Safety Class that if you are denied your permit, you have the right to appeal. The chief must then explain why he has seen fit to deny you the right to carry. That he doesn't give out permits or that he doesn't like you are not valid reasons. I also hear that a letter from an attorney stating as much often changes their stance as well.
I would contact GOAL, at goal.org. They are fantastic and very helpful for the licensing process.
Pa. Patriot
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WTF?
Assuming there is no law outlawing open carry in MA (I don't know)
If he has broken no laws carrying openly, what "reasons" could the police possibly use (legally) to "find him unsuitable for having a gun"?
Yes, police DO push the envelope when they THINK they should be able to stop doing something perfectly legal, particularly open carry. Sad, but they do.
However, no laws broken = no "reason"
If anything, the police have broken the law and can be sued.
It's happened elsewhere as people have started exercising their right to carry open. They will not be able to limit his right to own a firearm for carrying it in a legal manner.
For those interested, there is lots of good info on open carry at opencarry.org
More Mass. misinformation
Drivel. There is NO such statute. That said, it is a stupid idea unless you are on your own property.
Wrong again. Anyone with a mere FID card can buy a Ruger 10/22, even though it "will accept high [sic] capacity magazines." It is the actual possession of "Large Capacity" magazines which require an LTC, unless the firearm is listed on the "Large Capacity Roster."
Check the "Large Capacity Roster" on the CHSB website if you want to know what guns require an LTC.
Drivel. There is NO such statute. That said, it is a stupid idea unless you are on your own property.
Wrong again. Anyone with a mere FID card can buy a Ruger 10/22, even though it "will accept high [sic] capacity magazines." It is the actual possession of "Large Capacity" magazines which require an LTC, unless the firearm is listed on the "Large Capacity Roster."
Check the "Large Capacity Roster" on the CHSB website if you want to know what guns require an LTC.
Dust Monkey
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Got to love a state that would allow you to exercise your right.