SMITH & WESSON IN TROUBLE

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March 30, 2000


Gun Maker's Accord on Curbs Brings
Industry Pressure





By FOX BUTTERFIELD and RAYMOND HERNANDEZ

Smith & Wesson, which recently agreed to restrictions on the way it
makes and distributes handguns, has come under such fierce
financial pressure from other firearms manufacturers and dealers opposed
to the agreement that state officials have started antitrust investigations of
the industry.

Federal, state and city officials are also trying to protect Smith & Wesson
by persuading police agencies nationwide to buy its weapons.

The effort to help Smith & Wesson comes after the company agreed on
March 17 to a wide array of restrictions in exchange for ending many of
the 30 lawsuits filed against it by cities and counties and averting
threatened suits by the states of New York and Connecticut and the
Federal Department of Housing and Urban Development.

Since then, one of the nation's largest gun wholesalers announced it
would stop distributing Smith & Wesson handguns, many retail dealers
have proclaimed they will not sell Smith & Wesson products and the
National Rifle Association has denounced the company as a
foreign-owned business that has "run up the white flag of surrender" to
the Clinton administration. Smith & Wesson, which experts say produces
about one-fifth of the 2.5 million handguns sold nationwide each year, is
based in Springfield, Mass., but is owned by Tomkins PLC of London.

In addition, Ken Jorgensen, a spokesman for Smith & Wesson, said the
Chicago law firm that had long jointly represented Smith & Wesson,
Sturm Ruger & Company and the Colt's Manufacturing Company, three
of the largest handgun makers, has said the firm will drop Smith &
Wesson as a client. And some shooting match organizers have told Smith
& Wesson that the company is not welcome at their events.

The Chicago law firm that informed Smith & Wesson it would no longer
represent the company is Wildman, Harrold, Allen & Dixon. Anne
Kimball, a lawyer at the firm who has represented Smith & Wesson, did
not return phone calls seeking comment.

Eliot Spitzer, the attorney general of New York who helped strike the
deal with Smith & Wesson, said that officials are investigating whether
there is a conspiracy against the gun maker. "We are seeing behavior on
the part of Smith & Wesson's competitors that raises the specter of illegal
antitrust activity," Mr. Spitzer said in an interview today, adding: "This is
serious stuff."

Richard Blumenthal, the Connecticut attorney general who was also
involved in the agreement and is helping coordinate the measures to
protect the company, said, "Smith & Wesson is under absolutely
unprecedented pressure, both financial and personal within the gun
industry, with threats that are almost violent in nature, and I have heard
the fear that it could be put out of business."

But Robert Delfay, president of the National Shooting Sports
Foundation, the gun industry trade organization, said, "there is no
conspiracy" against Smith & Wesson.

"I could not be more confident that these are just independent actions by
businessmen," Mr. Delfay said.

The antitrust investigation is being conducted under state antitrust laws in
New York, Connecticut and Maryland, with more states expected to
join and subpoenas to be issued starting Thursday, Mr. Blumenthal said.

Mr. Jorgensen, the Smith & Wesson spokesman, said it is too early to
tell what the settlement's financial impact on the company will be. But,
Mr. Jorgensen added, "We've been getting beat up pretty bad, and the
whole idea seems to be a boycott of Smith & Wesson products."

The effort to get law-enforcement agencies buy Smith & Wesson
handguns could prove very helpful to the company, whose sales are
primarily to civilians. Nationwide, police forces purchase about 25
percent of the handguns sold each year. Only a very small part of the
police handgun purchases are from Smith & Wesson.

But Mr. Blumenthal and other federal, state and city officials who met in
Washington on Tuesday to try to find a way to help the company
acknowledged there are difficult contractual and legal problems in getting
police forces to make the change to Smith & Wesson.

Several cities and counties around the country, including Atlanta, Detroit,
Miami-Dade County, Buffalo, N.Y., Rochester, N.Y., and Albany,
N.Y., have recently agreed to buy only from Smith & Wesson. New
York City, which buys Glock handguns for its police officers, has
withheld a decision.

The effort to support Smith & Wesson is critical to regulating the firearms
industry, government officials say, because the deal it struck splintered
the powerful united front of gun makers and gun owners that has blocked
tough gun laws in Washington and state capitals for years. The company
agreed to improve the safety of its handguns, for instance, by including
trigger locks with all sales, and to allow its dealers to sell weapons at only
those gun shows where all sales are subject to background checks on the
buyer.

It also requires, within three years, so-called smart-gun technology that
will allow each of its new handguns to be fired only by authorized users.

Mr. Spitzer said that if Smith & Wesson was undermined financially, it
would weaken the government's hand in drawing other gun makers into
similar agreements. "If one company signs on and is left out to dry, we
can't credibly go to other companies and ask them to join this
agreement," he said.

The wholesaler that announced it will stop distributing Smith & Wesson
guns is RSR Group Inc.

of Winter Park, Fla., which called for Smith & Wesson to reopen
negotiations to "find a workable solution."

"Although RSR has been a leading distributor of Smith & Wesson
products for more than 20 years we have come to the difficult conclusion
that we cannot continue to do business with Smith & Wesson under the
problematic terms of the current agreement," the company said.

Mr. Blumenthal said these were precisely the kinds of actions the
investigation would examine to see whether "they are part of a concerted,
illegal campaign to retaliate against Smith & Wesson, restraining trade
and impeding the development of a safer product."

Andrew M. Cuomo, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development,
who helped organize the meeting on Tuesday in Washington, said, "It
seems the industry is doing everything it can to make an example out of
Smith & Wesson."

Almost overlooked in the dispute over what has happened to Smith &
Wesson is the view of some gun control advocates, who said the
settlement let the company off easy because it only accepted provisions it
was already practicing.

Moreover, six municipalities that did not take part in the agreement --
Chicago, Cleveland, Cincinnati, New Orleans, Washington, D.C. and
Wayne County, Mich. -- said they would continue with their lawsuits
against Smith & Wesson as well as other gun makers.

John Komako, a lawyer for Cleveland, said he saw "no reason to sign
onto the agreement" without seeing what documents Smith & Wesson
would be forced to disclose in the discovery stage of the lawsuits. On
March 14, just before Smith & Wesson reached its agreement, a Federal
District Court judge in Cleveland, Donald Nugent, rejected the gun
companies' motion for summary dismissal and ordered that discovery in
the case could proceed.

Lawyers advising the cities suing the gun industry have contended that if
they could get into discovery of corporate documents they would find
evidence that the firearms makers have long known how easily their guns
are sold to criminals and juveniles, providing the kind of proof that led to
expensive settlements by the tobacco companies.

The lawsuits filed against the gun makers by cities and counties charge
them with negligently marketing and distributing their guns in ways that
have helped criminals and juveniles gain access to them.

Some of the cities are seeking to recover the cost of gun violence for the
hiring of additional policemen and in hospital care while other cities say
their main goal is to improve gun safety and change gun makers'
marketing practices.

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Now the anti's are driving that wedge even deeper and are trying there best to get a hook into the rest of the industry for people excercising there right with who to do business........what a bunch of slime...fubsy.

Ive no way to validate this but ive recently heard that clinton went to blair and had blair put pressure on the thompkins co there in england to accept the govt offer, when you consider the relationship clinton and blair have its plausable......fubsy.
 
I'm not a lawyer...nor do I play one on TV.So ...let me see if I got this.Some distributors choose not to sell S&W.That is some kind of anti-trust violation.But if states boycott other gun companies...and give their lucrative LE contracts to S&W ONLY...that is not anti-trust! Is that it? Did I get this right??
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FRONT TOWARD ENEMY
 
Boo HOO HOO I really feel bad for them, They made the deal now and everyone is suppose to let bygones be bygones. Yeah Right!. Now Billy and his merry band of extortionists want to bail them out. Imagine that! Really makes me want to go out back and puke
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But I'm glad they got the point, Lets keep the ball rolling.Lets keep shovin it home
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Now I got to go take my BP pills
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We preserve our freedoms by using four boxes: soap,ballot,jury, and cartridge.
Anonymous
 
I thought this quote was interesting:

"The effort to support Smith & Wesson is critical to regulating the firearms
industry, government officials say, because the deal it struck splintered
the powerful united front of gun makers and gun owners that has blocked
tough gun laws in Washington and state capitals for years."

Considering that S&W is having such a hard time of it these days, I'd say the deal they made must have backfired. In addition, I definitely take a hard stance on the part about the 'government official's' remark inside that quote.

BTW why was I not invited to the 'conspiracy meeting'?

[This message has been edited by TMoney (edited March 30, 2000).]
 
Lets keep up the pressure people.
We need to show these bozos that the real power behind the so called gun lobby is us, the gun owners. Go NRA,GOA!
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BOYCOTT SMITH AND WESSON!!!!!
The only justice for a traitor is at the end of a rope!!!!
Off my meds (quit smoking), armed to the teeth, and loose on an unsuspecting society!!!
 
Well they were right about us weren't they?

We are as dangerous as a cocked gun.

We just dropped the hammer on S & W !!!!!!!

It is a good day to smile............
 
These people just don't get it... antitrust against the other manufacturers and dealers? Do they think that the pressure is really comming from them? They are barking up the wrong tree... The other manufacturers and dealers are doing this out of self defense. To keep from loosing their business. Sorry to inform those bozo's, but it is us gun owners, the individuals who are boycotting Slick & Wesson who are forcing the dealers to drop them.



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Richard

The debate is not about guns,
but rather who has the ultimate power to rule,
the People or Government.
RKBA!
 
Listen to that hypocrite Spitzer!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>If one company signs on and is left out to dry, we
can't credibly go to other companies and ask them to join this
agreement[/quote]

Just last week he said to the other companies that if they do not join, they will face bankruptcy. Ask?....hell, he threatened!
Not to mention the governmental favoritism and illegal business promotion. This is a clearcut violation. This is shameful, this is fascism.

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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!
 
Bookkie and others, they DO get it. They know damn well that the anti-trust charges are stupid, but they also know that their maneuvering is covered, and they also know that since they're only harassing gun companies, they'll be taken seriously long enough to bleed a few more.
We've GOT to do something about this or in 3 months we'll be scratching our heads wondering how the antis pulled it out. Let's start with letters to editors pointing out the hypocrisy. It's only useful to us if people KNOW ABOUT IT!
 
Yes - the government is correct. Gun companies are conspiring against SW.
To correct this, the Government should buy
every American a SW 3913 and SW 342PD.

Never mind.

Seriously, don't you SW apologists - if any are left - think that SW went crying to the
government to protect them.

What cowards - they design an agreement to give themselves a competitive advantage by favoring the kinds of guns they make, they benefit by cities now saying they will buy only SW and then complain because some folks want not to do business with them.

Too bad they are foreign owned. It would have been an interesting stock holders meeting.

Destroy them by not buying their products.

Let only cops have to use those safe guns.
Maybe it will get the cop organizations out
of kissing Federal but (I know their are some good ones).

bye
 
I don't quite understand this. The government threatens a company with lawsuits that will bankrupt it unless they comply with their demands which are not mandated by any federal or state laws and this is legal.
Law abiding citizens dispalying their anger by boycotting a product and other business entities who decide not to conduct business with another business and that is illegal. One sounds like extortion, which is illegal, and the other an exercise of my rights as a consumer and citizen. How come the attorney general didn't threaten the homosexual organizations with anti-trust prosecution when they threatened to boycott Colorado. Jesse Jackson has used boycotts his entire career in order to advance his cause. No prosecution there either. It is also illegal to give preference to one company over another when the government purchases goods or services. The lowest responsible bid is the requirement for being granted a contract for goods/services. If this isn't grounds for impeachment of Clinton, judges, senators, representatives and others involved in this type of activity, then I don't know what is. It is clearly illegal activity. The camel's nose in the tent was the extortion and blackmail of the tobacco companies so it stands to reason the firearm industry would be next. I predict if this works with the firearms industry, alcohol is next and after that, who knows. Whoever the liberals want to target next will be easy meat.
 
What Clinton is trying to do (force fed agencies to use S&W weapons) is patently illegal. It violates various statutes on procurement of products and open, unbiased competitions. Any manufacturer excluded from the procurement process can and will succeed in a lawsuit.

As for the investigation into the industry, it can't get anywhere. These dealers and wholesalers are exercising their right to free speech and to commercial speech. They also have the right to do business with whosoever they choose.

What is most hypocritical is that the agreement with S&W constitutes the greatest restraint on trade and the worst violation of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act that the US has seen in decades. What HUD talked S&W into agreeing to is the same thing that Microsoft is accused of. I'm confident that this agreement will be struck down. In fact, if we had someone other than Janet Reno as AG, the Justice Dept. would already be investigating it.
 
I'm wondering why, as I read this article and the ensuing discussion, that I keep hearing that old Jefferson Airplane song playing in the back of my mind.

"One pill makes you larger,
another makes you small.
And the one that mother gives you,
doesn't do anything at all!"


Is this some kind of time delayed, chemically induced hallucination from my misspent youth?

Am I going nuts, or has the rest of the world already beaten me to it?

This has to be some of the most twisted and contorted logic I have ever heard!
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The voices in my head are telling me to go buy more ammunition.
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Karanas...

It's Orwellian new-speak

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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!
 
What "White Rabbit"??????

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Uncle Jack

"If you put the first two where they belong, everything else is rhetoric and theory."
 
DC said it--Orwellian.

Our national standards of ethics and legality were threatened less by the USSR than they are now by our own officials.
 
I'm not a lawyer (yet), but this is DEFINTELY NOT an anti-trust situation.

The government is the only organization on the verge of anti-trust violations if it carries through with only doing business with S&W because of them signing that "agreement". ALL government contracts are required to be open for bid on the market. If this or any other administration grants S&W a contract without any bidding, then they are in violation. Not that THAT has ever stopped them.

Distributors and retailers are free to do business with whichever company they see fit. The government cannot mandate that they do otherwise. This is nothing more than a company recognizing that it made a terrible decision and looking to save face.

My prediction: S&W will be looking for a way out of this deal with the devil, and VERY soon.
 
Let's see. The government is worried about anti-trust, but is trying to push S&W products to save the company. Isn't that acting in a predatory manner and a violation of existing contract law concerning open bidding, in this case for handguns. A major ditributor drops the line because the agreement is so open ended and broadly worded, that the distributor is worried about their own liability, they drop the line. Now they are being investigated for conspiracy because they are trying to protect themselves. It seems the government is not content to allow the market to pass judgement on S&W, and allow it to die the painful death it deserves. Well so be it. Let these police forces use S&W products. If shooting organizations do not want S&W to participate, say no. If forced by the courts, make it as painful as possible. Reservations get messed up all the time. Anyone who shoots a S&W firearm in competition, should be shamed into switching. Do not associate with them. No new sales of S&W in the civilian market. Boycott the product. Period. Get rid of the shooting products with any S&W logoes. Better yet, send them to Clinton or Reno or S&W. What the government is doing is the worst sort of government abuse- bullying the people of the United States and cowering their representatives. Where are our congressmen and senators? This is tantamount to the overthrow of the Republic by elitist policy wogs. My God! The revolt is coming much sooner then I thought.
 
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