smallest group size for hunting?

sasquatch, go back and re-read Old Grump's post. You're not understanding what he said.

Offhand, if you can hit a fist-sized spot on a deer at 50 yards, it's a dead deer.

With a handy rest, if you can hit a fist-sized spot on a deer at 100 yards, it's a dead deer.

With a good rest, if you can hit a fist-sized spot on a deer at 200 yards, it's a dead deer.

Gotta be a really tiny deer for the heart/lungs to be smaller than a fist. :D
 
sasquatch, go back and re-read Old Grump's post. You're not understanding what he said.

Offhand, if you can hit a fist-sized spot on a deer at 50 yards, it's a dead deer.
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And how about offhand @ 100 yards.......or 200 yards?
 
Sasquatch...

... Old Grump said he shoots a fist size group at 200 yards, bench, as well as the same size group at 50 yards, offhand. (and the same size, with basic support, at 100 yards)

By inference, using your sticks, he'd shoot 4" or 5" at 100 yards, not 10".
 
Sasquatch, again...

.... YOU said you always use sticks. So you still haven't answered how you shoot without the sticks at 100 yards, you've simply criticized Old Grump.

Your turn.
 
Sasquatch, again...
.... YOU said you always use sticks. So you still haven't answered how you shoot without the sticks at 100 yards, you've simply criticized Old Grump.
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RIF....here is what I actually said:

I don't shoot without some type of support. I carry shooting sticks, and have used them a number of times.
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That "some type of support" can be a log, my backpack on the ground, or a sitting or kneeling shot using the proper technique and a sling. I also said I have used the sticks "a number of times"..........not always.
 
I stand corrected

But you are still comparing supported to unsupported numbers, IE your supported performance against Old Grump's unsupported.

What kind of groups do you hold at 50 yards unsupported, and 100 yards using sticks, log, tree branch, etc? You still haven't answered that.
 
Question was asked about hunting accuracy and I answered based on 40 years of personal experience in the field.

Hunting not bench rest and not competition.

As a competitive high powered rifle shooter I averaged 182 out of 200 on a standard offhand 200 yard bulls eye target shooting offhand with a M1 Garand with iron sights. 10 ring is 4". That is with a Match weapon and slinged up.

In the woods I use a hasty sling and a hunting rifle and I am shooting in a hurry, I don't have a minute to line up my shots. I do walk with a walking stick, same stick since 1986. I practice taking hasty shots with that stick and I shoot 3 times as fast as I can get my sights or scope on target depending on the rifle or revolver in my hand.

I am a believer that you will react the way you train and I am not trying to shoot 1 hole groups. My fist and a deer heart are comparable in size and so far I only have one deer to my credit that wasn't heart shot. If I can't make that kind of shot I don't shoot. I don't mind passing up a deer.

Benchrest groups are obviously tighter but I have never shot a deer from my shooting bench.
 
Coach wouldn't let us practice rapid fire except just a day or two before a match. We shot offhand every day and since he was a Navy Lt. Commander and my division officer I had to pay attention to him. His philosophy was 50 yard slow fire with the 22 and 45 pistol and 200 yards off hand with rifle, if you can do that everything else falls into place. I'm not a natural shot but I put in the sweat equity. Having him for a coach and having to learn the hard way probably made me a better coach.
 
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