Skeet/Sporting Gun

So let me try to better understand what folks are trying to argue here. It seems that everyone is saying that their attention span and concentration skills are so extremely poor and marginal, that just having a brighter bead on their shotgun is going to make them completely mess up their shot? In other words, it seems to me that they are saying this: Weak-minded marksmen who cannot maintain their focus or concentration should avoid using any fiber optic sight, no matter what the brand it is.
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You resorting to insults gets you no where in the credibility department. The OP's question was about skeet guns. YOU bring in this off-topic rant and then proceed to denigrate everyone, (who have a lot of experience) that do not agree with you.

I can assure you that MY attention span is just fine - and I would rather be focusing on the target to hit....but then that's just me - I'd rather break them than miss them. I have shot with, coached with, and practiced with too many folks who miss behind by stopping their gun, and the majority of them have some form of glow pipe. Once removed their scores improved - not by some major factor, but they did go up.

YMMV.
 
This thread has degenerated to a rant, a bashing, insults, etc.

Let's repect the OP and either get back on topic or kill the thread.

Opinions are like............everyone has one.

To the dude that wants to fight over glow pipes, how about starting your own thread? I am sure we can "talk" about it over there.

Here is the bottomline. We all shoot (or say we do) and have learned what works or doesn't work for us, as an individual. Great, we are all different.

As my now dead grandfather use to say....it is good we don't all like the same girl..........
 
re: shotgunworld and Guerini... "but remember they are a touch biased."

No we're not. NOT NOT NOT. :)

All I have a lousy little 28" 28 ga. Woodlander, so don't mind me, I'm jealous and want a real big CG gun. ;)

John

P.S. - I tried the fiber optic sight that came on my used SX-2 Waterfowl. The ducks and the geese were laughing at it in the first rays of dawn as they flared off, so I took it off. They have really good eyesight. I haven't had a sight on the gun for a couple of years now and like it that way. If I wasn't so lazy I'd remove the sights from all my shotguns. I look at the target and not the sight anyway. My great-uncle Ed used to file the bead down on all of his shotguns, so maybe it runs in our genes.
 
What happened to the discussion started at the beginning of this thread? It was about choosing a skeet/sporting gun, not a heated exchange of ideas about light/glow pipe sights.
 
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Personally, I really like the Guerini guns. These guns offer Perazzi quality for less than half the price (generally speaking).
Hard to go wrong with that.
 
Jimdo says:

Personally, I really like the Guerini guns. These guns offer Perazzi quality for less than half the price (generally speaking).


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Hmmm. Would you like to expound on your comment? I and several others here would probably like to better understand your comment before it get torn apart. I'm no great fan of Perazzi - but you did make a rather inflamatory comment without backing it up much. I'm not pointing the finger but you do only have 11 posts. FYI - the crowd around here can come down on you pretty hard for making a controversial comment then not backing it up.
 
I've only shot them. They appear to utilize the same "Boss" action, so, IMO, that's a good thing. However, I do not believe they put the same effort in their barrels that Perazzi does. That is one thing Perazzi does very well; so well, you can order your gun with different weights and it will still come nicely balanced.

One thing showing up on another forum are supposed reports on the guns having kaboom issues. I have NO confirmation of that. They DO have exceptional customer service from everyone at my club that I have talked to that has one. If Perazzi/Kreighoff/Kolar is out of the price range, I would put them on the next-tier list with Blaser and Zoli

JMO, YMMV
 
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See - now that wasn't so hard .....

but there you go again, with a pig on the shovel routine again - and I keep trying to be nice ...and you drag me back into the muck ....
 
Now, Jim - the pig on a shovel is a critique I heard from a well-known gun writer shooting acquaintance.....I just find them heavy - like a Kolar - which, if you're just standing there shooting skeet or trap is doable - no gunbearer needed. If you're shooting sporting, and walking, then you might as well tote a boat anchor...........:D;).....(J/K)

For the money, you really should look at Kolar - with their carrier barrel system and renowned tube sets, you can't go wrong
 
Alright guys. Thanks for the advice! I'm glad I found this forum.

Update--I shot a similar Beretta and Browning on Monday (I ruled the CG out on price). I shot both guns well but was powdering the targets with the Beretta and only cliping them with the Browning. The guy I was shooting with is a Browning die hard and he felt like the Beretta fit me better. I went dove hunting yesterday and I think I made the right choice. I'm so glad I spent the money to have a nice o/u.

Okay...Now I need some choke tube advice. I have bought several choke tubes for my hunting shotguns over the years. I shoot a Kicks high flyer in my SBE for ducks and a Briley Extended tube for Turkeys. At long distances I found that these chokes made a noticable difference. I want to buy a pair of skeet chokes for my new gun. Do you find the extended chokes really pattern better than flush chokes for skeet? What choke tubes would you reccomend? I don't want buy two $100 tubes if a $30 tube will hold the same pattern.
 
Glad that Beretta works well for you. First thing - did it come with chokes labeled with the constrictions you want? I say labeled, because what they say and what they do MAY be different. Take the loads you will use and test the chokes on the pattern board. IF you get the correct patterns you want, then no need to buy after market chokes. If you're not getting them, then you have many choices - among the best ones are Briley, Tru-lock, Seminole, Rhino. They aren't necessarily the cheapest, but if you're only buying a few, it's worth it. When I bought some Brileys for one of my Brownings, they ran a special, buy 5 get a 6th free - that was years ago, but some of these folks might be doing something similar in this economy.........

Now, buy some ammo, then buy some more. Maybe a lesson or two, a reloader.....next thing you know you'll be adding a 28 gauge.......and another reloader......and on and on....(don't ask me how I know!) :D
 
Thanks oneounce!

It came with 2 CYL, 1 IC, 1 M, and 1 IM stand flush chokes and 2 browning midas extended in M and IC. I don't have any SKT chokes. I would typically just shoot the CYL (what I do in my autos) but I want to get this one right the first time. I hate to buy two cheap flush chokes and find out the extended throw a much more uniform pattern. I know every gun/ammo combo patterns different but if someone has the same gun and has tested several tube/ammo combo that would save me some time and money.
 
Do the Browning chokes fit your Beretta?????:confused: Doesn't sound right - make sure before you try to put them in or you can cause cross-threading - very bad.......

C/IC will work for skeet, but if you are going to do serious stuff, getting some skeet specific can be easily done.

Again, try them all on the pattern board to see what densities you get - they may be just fine. If not, plenty of good ones to choose from.

Also, if you are going to shoot registered, and all 4 gauges, subgauge tubes will be on your future. BigJim may have more experience with them. Friends I shoot with like Brileys, love Kolar's.....set of three can run you the price of your gun, but then, it does give you basically 4 guns........
 
The chokes are made by Browing for a Beretta. THey Say "Beretta-MOD and Beretta-IC right on the choke. I thought the same thing at first.
 
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