SJSHP? Revolver ammo.

I use the 158gr SJHP loading for both CCW and HD (I don't hunt with a .357 Magnum). My M66 has a 2 1/2" barrel and my M28 has a 4" barrel. While I don't own a chronograph myself, in nearly every test I've seen the Remington 158gr SJHP and other similar loadings generally run 1100-1150fps from 2-3" barrels.

I, personally, would only consider using the 180gr loading from at least a 4" barrel and preferably an even longer one. The loading is advertised at only 1145fps from an 8 3/8" barrel and I fear that the reduced velocity of a short barrel might make expansion unreliable.
 
Don't know where the other "s" comes in...

You ever hear of a semi jacketed soft hollow point? I've heard of a SJSP, but never a SJsHP.
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I understand they still make them, but nobody seem to stock them on the shelves any more, (although I did find 8 boxes at a gun show a while back) Speer made an excellent 146gr and 160 gr semi jacketed SWC hollow point back in the 70s.

I shot a couple thousand of them through my Dad's model 28, usually on top of a stiff charge of Hercules 2400 powder back in those days.

Don't know where all the talk of expansion out of snubbies came from, it certainly wasn't in the OP.

The Speer bullets were called half jackets, but the jacket actually covered a bit more than half. The swc nose was pretty soft, and had a hollow point (146gr, I think the 160s were just swc).

The thing with these bullets was that they were not supposed to be driven slowly. Very low velocities could result in the jacket sticking in the bore, with bad results. They expanded pretty well at moderate speeds (regular .38spl velicities) and performed very well at higher speeds.

I know of a case where a 260lb guy was "dropped" by a shot to his shin! The round was the 160gr semijacketed SWC, on top of a case full of H110. The bullet shattered 17cm of bone, leaving no piece much bigger than 1/4" along the wound channel. Ok, that shot was from a 6" revolver, but it did work quite handily.

It would be nice to have a pic, or at least the specif brand name of bullet the OP is asking about.....might be able to give some more info then...
 
It would be nice to have a pic, or at least the specif brand name of bullet the OP is asking about.....might be able to give some more info then...
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The OP is talking about the SJHP bullets that come in factory Remington ammunition, though these bullets are available as components as well in weights ranging from 110gr to 180gr.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1601270712/remington-bullets-38-caliber-357-diameter-110-grain-semi-jacketed-hollow-point

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1601186739/remington-bullets-38-caliber-357-diameter-125-grain-semi-jacketed-hollow-point-box-of-500

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1601144990/remington-bullets-38-caliber-357-diameter-140-grain-semi-jacketed-hollow-point

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1601122672/remington-bullets-38-caliber-357-diameter-158-grain-semi-jacketed-hollow-point

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1601149498/remington-bullets-357-magnum-357-maximum-357-diameter-180-grain-semi-jacketed-hollow-point
 
This is accurate. Semi jacketed, in general, means a jackted bullet with exposed lead. other designs from old times included a half-jacket, that covered only the shank of the bullet that would have contacte the bore.

A sp would be a jacketed soft point with a fully jacketed bullet and lead only exposed at the tip, and a sjsp would be a semijacketed soft point that had an exposed lead lead shank with the rest of the bullet jacketed, like that example earlier. The sjhp, semi jacketed hollow point, is a bullet with about 1/8-1/4 inch or so of explosed lead, and the lead is hollow.

This has been describedf at times, as a semi-jacketed soft point hollow point. it has also been called a sj hollow-soft point.

Soft point = exposed lead on front of jacketed bullet.

semi jacketed soft point = shorter jacket that leaves a lump of exposed lead at the tip. This accelerates expansion as the lead collapses and bursts the jacket much easier.

semi jacketed hollow point = hollow point bullet with lots of exposed lead shank.


The beauty of a semi jackted hollow point is that a light lead alloy can be used without making the entire bullet weak. with the exposed lead shank, even if the hollow point clogs, the lead will still collapse and expand to some degree, and the jacket will help keep the bullet from failing.
 
sheik, I'd bet that any of the windshield shops would love to give you broken windshields to test on. Tempered glass that has been shot up isn't really a hazardous thing.

You could also probably go to a window shop or glass shop and get plexiglass cutoffs to shoot through; the elasticity may be interesting, and close to the lamintion feature of a windhsield.
 
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The OP is talking about the SJHP bullets that come in factory Remington ammunition, though these bullets are available as components as well in weights ranging from 110gr to 180gr
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Again, Thanks Webleymkv

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This has been describedf at times, as a semi-jacketed soft point hollow point. it has also been called a sj hollow-soft point.
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Before I just learned the term "Scalloped", as apposed to Soft point in the hallow form, my Rem 125g SJHPs, although very soft, they "aren't" called SJSHP on the box. But, they are Soft SJHPs with a "Scalloped" SJHP bullet as per post #23.

I can't recalled weather I saw SJSHP said Soft or not, it's been a while, and I can't remember if I saw it stating "Soft".

So I guess it possibly could be called soft , or scalloped, or both. AKA SJSSHP.:D:eek:
 
This is one of the situations where an acronym can mean many things.

Most people saw "semi jacketed hollow soft point" as redundant. It wasn't used much. The semi jacketed structure with exposed lead makes it a soft point, so any semijacketed hollow point would, to a nitpicker, need to be a "hollow soft point." That term was just not used much.

I don't ever recall remington using the "SJSHP" meaning scalloped. They aren't at this time. I'm not saying that it was never done, I just don't remember it.
 
I just about laughed when I was going through the accurate powders loading manual just now. here's a list of acronyms for bullet types. let me point out first of all

soft point is not in the list.

BS Ballistic Siver Tip
(gotta love it)

FMC Full Metal Case
FMJ Full Metal Jacket
(redundancy)

GD Gold Dot
GDHP Gold Dot Hollow Point
(arent all gold dot hollow points?)

HSP Hollow Soft Point
(or semi jacketed hollow point, etc.)

JHC Jacketed Hollow Cavity
JHP Jacketed Hollow Point
(redundancy?)

JSP Jacketed Soft Point
(has anyone ever seen a non-jacketed soft point?)

KSPB Keith Style Piston Bullet
(Piston???)

LFNGC Long Flat Nose Gas Check
LFNPB Long Flat Nose Plane Base
WBFPGC Wide Base Flat Point Gas Check
WNFPGC Wide Nose Flat Point Gas Check
(this has to be a joke. There should be an "L" for lead in all of them)

(L) Lead
(I like this one. Simple.)

LTB Length Tolerant Bullet
(????)

SP Spire Point
SS Semispitzer
SPT Spitzer
SWC Semi Wadcutter
WC Wadcutter
(Finally, some that were simple and clear.)

The misspellings really bother me.
 
I don't ever recall remington using the "SJSHP" meaning scalloped. They aren't at this time. I'm not saying that it was never done, I just don't remember it.
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Brian, just going by what was told to me years ago. At the time Remington made semi-jacketed bullets in both the traditional and the scalloped jacket design. I was told that the extra S in the product description was meant to differentiate the two. I may have been told wrong.

This from Remington describing their SJSHP........

Remington's Semi-Jacketed Hollow Point unique scalloped jacked design is engineered to combine optimum expansion with controlled penetration for maximum energy transfer.
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I've said in numerous posts, names and data change over time. Looks like I missed that one.

You can never count on information remaining the same, and good luck finding a way to confirm something old.
 
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