Six-year-old suspended for pointing finger like a gun

It may be because I am going to be a teacher in a few years but I like the zero tolerance policies. The reason they are there is to protect the school and its employees from all of the psycho parents that want to sue for their child getting punished for doing something wrong. Before the zero tolerance policies the punishments were chosen by the teacher or the principal which gave the sue-happy parents someone to blame and try to take to court. Now with the zero tolerance policies they can't claim their child was singled out because everyone gets the same punishment. As far as this case is concerned, I think it was right to be rescinded. Kids have been playing cops and robbers or cowboys and indians forever. This was just an example of zero tolerance policies being taken too far.
 
jasmith85, you blow hot and cold in one breath.

If you think this was a case of zero tolerance policies being taken too far, then you do not understand how zero tolerance policies work.

Or, if you like zero tolerance policies, then you should oppose the lifting of the suspension.

Frankly, when my son starts school, I hope and pray he has teachers that exercise common sense, and who do not rely on some stupid policy book in the place of common sense.
 
I think zero tolerance policies give people a green light to abuse their authority, and a tool to promote the personal beliefs of those on certain matters.
 
If you think this was a case of zero tolerance policies being taken too far, then you do not understand how zero tolerance policies work.

I know exactly how zero tolerance policies work. No matter what the circumstances if you break the rule you get the punishment. I don't know that specific school's rules, but if its anything like the schools I have been around the rule is basically banning all toy guns or items that look like guns. A hand is a body part, its not like the kid could have left it at home so I think it should be exempt from the rule.

Or, if you like zero tolerance policies, then you should oppose the lifting of the suspension.

Its not all or nothing. I think zero tolerance does its job but I also believe that a hand isn't a toy gun. I think that it was taken too far when they decided that a kid's hand went against the policy.

Frankly, when my son starts school, I hope and pray he has teachers that exercise common sense, and who do not rely on some stupid policy book in the place of common sense.

Teachers aren't allowed to "exercise common sense" as you put it. As soon as one kid gets a slightly different punishment than another for similar acts there would be parents crying foul. The rules aren't there to give harsh punishment to innocent kids, they're there to protect the teachers from these idiots that think they should sue because little Timmy got sent home from school for a day causing them to have to pay a babysitter. The only way things will ever go back to the way they used to be is if schools were given some sort of amnesty from being sued. All of the kids affected by these policies can blame the parents crying foul play, not the school system.
 
Well then stop punishing and do something that works - educating, talking, counseling, study hall, detention and in school suspension.

A lot of the former students I used to counsel loved being suspended. Offically sactioned hooky. Want out of school? Screw up on purpose.

What kind of education do you get sitting at home or hanging on the corner?

John
 
Been there...

Hello. My son is in the same situation. He is 13 years old was at school stood up in class pointed his finger and started going bang, bang, bang. They immediately took him out of class and told us to come get him. He has since been out of school pending a psychiatric evaluation to get back in.
 
So, jasmith85, a toy gun is bad but a finger imitating a gun is ok?

What about a stick used to mimic a gun?

What about a GI Joe doll's miniature gun?

IE, "toy guns" that could not possibly be mistaken for real guns.

These examples were chosen because they have all resulted in other zero tolerance punishments.
 
People are being conditioned to fear guns, instead of criminals. How can this situation be reversed?

By you, me and all fellow gun owners uniting together and refusing to be streamrolled over like sheep by the antis.

People, it's Man-Up time if we've ever seen it! Get involved in any way you can by joining, contributing, recruiting Pro 2A groups.

Sitting on the sidelines now is to endorse Diane Feinstein's attack
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jasmith85 said:
I know exactly how zero tolerance policies work. No matter what the circumstances if you break the rule you get the punishment.
Which is exactly why it means "I don't have to think any more." In the case of a zero tolerance policy against fighting, for instance, both the initial aggressor and the kid who is only defend himself wind up getting suspended. That's an absurd result, but quite predictable under a zero tolerance policy.

As so many zero-tolerance policies are in the area of fighting, violence, weapons and drugs, I sincerely doubt that they came about as a result of overly litigious parents. I'm unaware of any lawsuits filed because "my kid shoulda been allowed to bring dope to school like all the others."
 
Pathetic.... If this is what our scociety is morphing into, it sickens me. I could almost cry thinking about what kind of world my daughter will grow up in.
 
Guns bad, rockets good.

I see my Montgomery County high school still has the rocket out front. I figured they would have ditched it in the past 45 years.

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