situation question, inspired by a dream...

Shoot him or at him in most of Ohio, . . . you would probably wish that you did not do that.

If he is running away, . . . or retreating in any manner, . . . HE has disengaged the situation, . . . if you re-engage it, . . . YOU are the aggressor. This would be doubly sure in Columbus, . . . the mayor there must be some long lost cousin or half brother to Bloomburg, . . . they think alike.

May God bless,
Dwight
 
I think Dwight is right on this. At least here in Fl., once the attacker turns away, its over.

If you do anything from that point on, you're not the aggressor.
 
Oh, man! I quit having dreams like that about two years after I got out of the USMC. Try meditation or exercise or something.

My reply to your question would be:
You say you've just been stabbed twice in the chest and you fall down. The assailant retreats. What makes you think you are going to be capable of firing a few shots at them? Having seen people get stabbed, they like freak out, grabbing at the wound, looking at the blood, etc. Stabbed in the chest, they often get really scared and become incoherent. I think you would likely have other things on your mind. Edged weapons have a strange effect on people.

But legally, since the assailant is retreating, I think you would be in deep hooey pretty quick if you nailed him.
 
I also often have dreams where the gun won't fire, or I pull it out and it falls apart in my hand. I have no confidence issues with my guns, neither have ever failed to fire once, maybe it's myself that I lack confidence in?
 
I think Dwight is right on this. At least here in Fl., once the attacker turns away, its over.

If you do anything from that point on, you're not the aggressor.
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I remember it happening back in the 80's- a guy on a bicycle went into a welding shop and shot several people. Two guys at an adjacent shop chased him down in a van and killed him. State attorney (Janet Reno at the time?) said it was a justifiable use of force under our statutes. Not exactly a precedent, though.
 
wayneinFL said:
... Two guys at an adjacent shop chased him down in a van and killed him. State attorney (Janet Reno at the time?) said it was a justifiable use of force under our statutes. Not exactly a precedent, though.
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There has to be more to the story. A link to some more information would help.

We need to be very careful about anecdotes like this. Sometimes there mere folk tales, and sometimes critical data is missing.
 
There has to be more to the story. A link to some more information would help.
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Yeah, you got me there. It was 30 years ago, so my memory was a little fuzzy. Sure, there's always more to the story and there's probably more to the story than what was in the papers. Took some time, but I found it. It was Carl Robert Brown. Most of the articles were on Google News archive.

http://www.nytimes.com/1982/08/24/us/no-charges-planned-against-miami-man-who-shot-gunman.html

Prosecutors said today they would not file criminal charges against a motorist who pursued and killed Carl R. Brown just minutes after Mr. Brown killed eight people and wounded three others in a shooting spree at a welding shop. Dade State Attorney Janet Reno said that after reviewing police reports, she had decided against bringing charges against the motorist, Mark Kram, because he used ''justifiable force'' in shooting Mr. Brown and running him down with his car after the crime last Friday. ''The facts of the law, particularly the law that deals with justifiable use of force, indicates that charges should not be filed,'' she said. She added that Mr. Kram was within his legal rights to use deadly force because he believed it was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or someone else.
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They pretty much did everything against conventional wisdom. They had heard about the shooting. They chased Brown in a Lincoln ( I was wrong about the van). They shot him in the back with a 38, then struck him, pinning him against a light pole.

According to their story, they had fired a warning shot that had inadvertently struck Brown. I think everybody knows that's BS, and even if it isn't, warning shots aren't a good idea. Allegedly, after being delivered the fatal shot, Brown reached for the gun, so they hit him with the car.
 
Fear...

Dream assaults are always hand to hand actions for me and I move like I am under water having little to no impact on my foe. I will invariably wake up flushed with adrenalin, but no weapons ever come into play. As for your dream scenario, a fleeing attacker that has wounded you is a continuing threat to you and others. If you know them, you may have a very good idea of exactly what kind of threat they would continue to be. Depending on my perception of whether they would come back to finish the job or had just flipped out and were intent on stabbing everyone they encountered, I might shoot them as they fled.
 
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