Single stage or multi stage press?

I can't speak for others that use a single, but for me I do not do 50 at a time.
I will prime 200 to 300 at a time, Powder all in one step and then seat the bullets all at one time. It is much slower than a progressive, but don't make it sound likes it's that slow. I hand prime while I watch TV or chat with the better half, Powder at the kitchen table ( No talking or TV). And even on a single stage to seat 200 or 300 bullets is pretty fast. I powdered 100 rounds last night in 35 minutes.Powdered 200 more tonight in little over a hr.. Tomorrow I will seat all the bullets and be done with one rifle.
 
Machineguntony- So do you like single stage or not. I can't tell by your post
Why not? Seems clear to me?

Actually I shoot comp and shoot more than 80% of people here. Every Sat and Sun about 300 - 500 rounds a day. I use a single stage press and find it very easy to stay on top of making rounds. Time consuming-Yes, Enjoyable- Yes.
Still find lots of time for the wife and kids too. Been using a single stage since day one years and years ago. Quality not quantity
I can't speak for others that use a single, but for me I do not do 50 at a time.
I will prime 200 to 300 at a time, Powder all in one step and then seat the bullets all at one time. It is much slower than a progressive, but don't make it sound likes it's that slow.

Precision rounds can be produced just as accurate on a turret at a much faster pace than a single stage on a turret press, did you know that? Or are you stopping to measure each one like it is a 500+ yd rifle round? Also are you trying to convince others to join the precise bullet loading clan or can they just bang out some nice plinkers in 1/8 the time? Because I am not sure everyone wants the same thing here!

Sheesh I need a drink...:mad::mad:
 
Last edited:
wreck-n-crew- :eek: breath deep a few times, relax, have a drink.Not trying to convince anyone of anything here. And yes every round is a 600 to 1400 yard round. Precision rounds are much easier to produce on a single stage. I don't make plinking rounds, as I don't own any plinking rifles. I just was saying that a single stage is slower than a turret press, but they are not as slow as some would think when you work in stages. Each to there own.
I use my press to size and seat bullets only, all other jobs are done by hand. So a turret press is of no use to me. Now that's just me. You seem to be offended by any one that would want to use a single stage. All my dies have the lock nuts on them, Unscrew one screw the other in snug it up and I am done. I don't need to reset it or mess with it either.
Now if I shot Pistol as much as some- Now you would have my support for a turret press. I maybe shoot 500 rounds a year now from my pistol just to stay in practice.
I think you need maybe 2 drinks:D
 
Last edited:
I haven't seen a definitive answer to the newbies "which press do I get to start" type question in at least the last 12 years of reading forums. The "discussion" continues with both sides defending their opinion to the death. When I address questions like these I'm talking to an entry level, completely new to reloading beginner.

I have had apprentices work for me and did a little teaching (very little) and found the most complete way to learn something is to start simple/easy. But using my "learn to drive" scenario, I learned to drive in a '48 International 2 ton flat bead with "straight cut" geared 5 speed trans., so yep some can learn to operate a progressive press and learn to reload, but it's easier just to learn to reload... ;)
 
Last edited:
It always comes down to the talent of the guy working the machinery.
Where we used to live, a good friend decided to load all the components he had on hand for the one caliber he mostly used.
And on a single stage press.
Can't remember what he used for the primers, though.
Anyhow, with the help of a friend he magaged to load 4k rounds over a single weekend.
(No, not me, as I had very pressing business elsewhere :))
 
4k over a weekend?. Thats hauling. I did 5k over the winter for my 223 and that was enough. I don't think talant has anything to do with it. I think it is more of what a person wants and needs. I could get a progressive, but it would be a waste on money for me anyhow. I size on press ( everybit as fast as a progressive). I prime by hand, I brush inside neck with drill by hand,I trim by hand,I chamfer by hand, I throw each charge and a digital scale by hand, dump powder into case by hand. Then I go back downstairs and seat bullet with press.
So progressive or not,I would be using 2 stages of the press at most. Im old and I like to be very precise at what I do. Could I do this on a progressive-yes but I choose to use single. Results- less than 1 inch groups always at 300 yards, deveation of 10 fps or less. Again-Could that be done on a progressive-Probebly
I seem to be catching greif for using a single stage press here. It's my choice to use one. Is this how people feel about single shot rifles or bolt rifles,Maybe we should all buy semi autos only?. That way we could all shoot as fast as each other too. Some people ( me ) like the reloading as much as the shooting. In 10 plus years of shooting I can say I have never found myself in a hurry to load. Worst thing ever happen to me- Forgot to prime some cases once. Never a squib, never a over charge, never a under charge, Never anything. Which I probably just cursed myself now for saying that:D. Progressives are great, just got no need for one. You guys can have your corvette and I will stay with my Truck.
Lets just all load safe and have fun.
 
Last edited:
Old guy advice to new reloaders:

Try to find a bullet puller that's as fast as a progressive.

If you don't understand that statement, start on a single stage or turret.

:D
 
Over the years I more than likely have used 5/6 different presses . I started out with a RCBS Rock Chucker and still have it . I retired 4/5 years ago and sold the Dillion XL-650 and went back to the Single Stage . A month ago I bought a new Forster Co-Ax and really like it a bunch . I think it is as fast as any turret as die change is snap out snap in . Reloading is not about speed it is about being as perfect as you can be .
 
Not trying to convince anyone of anything here.
3 post on using a single stage and the volume you load and your not selling it? If you say so:rolleyes:

You seem to be offended by any one that would want to use a single stage.
How did you arrive at that conclusion? I even stated he would find a need for one here:
Don't know if it's been mentioned yet (wait it has) but...You will find a need for a single stage!

The point is that your repeated post (3 before my remarks) on how capable a single stage is and how much you reload and shoot. To me that is at least one time (if not two) more than necessary to make the point. To me either that is selling, bragging or rambling, from where i am standing and maybe i missed something but it seemed to detract from what I feel we were suppose to be trying to accomplished from the beginning and that is to help the op to decide whether or not to keep and use the single stage press etc.

What I read in each one is a statement that you only need a single stage and that you reload and shoot a lot.
If I missed your points I apologize. I may be reading them all wrong, but from where I was standing it looked that way. So lets revisit and you tell me what it was:
First post:
Started with a RCBS single stage years and years ago, Still using same press. never found the need for progressive. I shoot a lot.
You load a lot, shoot a lot and the single stage is all you ever needed was my interpretation.

Second post:
Actually I shoot comp and shoot more than 80% of people here. Every Sat and Sun about 300 - 500 rounds a day. I use a single stage press and find it very easy to stay on top of making rounds. Time consuming-Yes, Enjoyable- Yes.
Still find lots of time for the wife and kids too. Been using a single stage since day one years and years ago. Quality not quantity
You shoot competition and more rounds than 80% of people here followed by 300-500 per day times 2 days = 600-1000 per week (IE you shoot a lot and have to load a lot) and you use a single stage and still have time for wife and kids and been doing it since you started ....etc. Notice you said you use a single stage twice here and we already know you reload on nothing but it because once again you said it?

Third post:
I can't speak for others that use a single, but for me I do not do 50 at a time.
I will prime 200 to 300 at a time, Powder all in one step and then seat the bullets all at one time. It is much slower than a progressive, but don't make it sound likes it's that slow. I hand prime while I watch TV or chat with the better half, Powder at the kitchen table ( No talking or TV). And even on a single stage to seat 200 or 300 bullets is pretty fast. I powdered 100 rounds last night in 35 minutes.Powdered 200 more tonight in little over a hr.. Tomorrow I will seat all the bullets and be done with one rifle.
Once again how well it works for you and how it is fast enough to serve your high volume needs.

Either way all three post about the single stage is all you use, how much you load, and how it works for you is what I read. The worst part is it was not like a reciprocating set of post other than the comment about not knowing if Machineguntony liked a single stage or not, it was just post after post of the same thing to me.

At this point I skipped making drinks and grabbed the whole bottle.

Maybe we need an open forum break room for start up discussions that can be repetitive and have no purpose or direction other than to kill time or fulfill a void. Until then I will be skipping out and of here while i empty a meaningless bottle to fill an empty bladder and waste perfect water in the flush. :cool:
 
Wow! One guy offers his opinion and then all the posts the guy ever wrote are taken apart phrase by phrase and criticized/berated. What's the need to do that? Does you wife do that to you so you have to retaliate on anonymous posters? Is it that important to get your word in? Is a forum the only place some can feel "important"? Come on, lighten up...:mad:
 
Bench built

2015-03-28%2022.54.53.jpg
 
Looks like you've got a good start. good job!

I would highly recommend that you cut two more 2X4 legs and screw them together (doubling up) to the existing front legs to make the horizontal beam more sturdy & solid. Reloading presses exert a lot of twisting torque when you size cases.
 
I started with a RCBS manual index progressive press, the cost is higher up front.
I suppose if I had a single stage given to me I would have started with that.
There is a lot of other things that you need also, tumbler with media, a good scale, bullet puller (for the mistakes), and dies for your caliber.
I only load 40 S&W so once everything is set, you just crank out rounds with the progressive.
Nice bench
 
Back
Top