Silencing a Revolver - Is is possible?

Jeff OTMG touched on the Reed Knights rifle and handgun I was going to mention.


VERY cool answer to the classic question of how to effectively suppress a revolver.


He made 2 types that I am aware of, one was the R2 which was a sniper rifle built on a 44magnum revolver frame and the other was a handgun built on something like a GP100 frame.


The sniper rifle had typical 44Magnum cylinders and used what looked like typical 44Mag shells. The trick was that it used a 30 cal. barrel and used special ammo where the 44Mag casings held a special telescoping sleeve that contained a 30cal bullet, upon firing the sleeve slid forward meeting with the barrel and effectively containing the combustion of the powder so that everything vented properly through the suppressor.

The 30cal bullet only traveled through 8-10 inches of barrel but when you saw the massive suppressor you got an eye full of what looked like 16 or so inches of bull barrel, obviously was a very large integrally suppressed barrel and possibly vented like that of an MP5SD. The thing was said to be incredibly silent, so much so that dry fire and live fire decible ratings were essentially the same at around 117db or something truely rediculous.




The handgun, forget the name of it but possibly an R3, was designed on a similar principle but used 38 or 357Mag brass and contained 22caliber projectiles. Noise ratings weren't as low for the smaller gun.



Ahhhhh, such an impressive little gun. Every now and then you'll see one in some obscure movie or TV show, when I first saw them on TV I almost laughed at the concept because everybody knows you can't suppress revolvers. Then I'm sittin in a Barns&Noble one day and there in this book on special firearms I see a lengthy feature on the Knights creation, WHOA neato stuff to learn about. I also gained a bit of respect for whoever the firearms tech/advisor was who kicked up a mock up of an R2 for the production.




And then Jim Keenan makes a good point. Suppressors don't neccesarily need to "silence" the shot, if they can attenuate the muzzle report so that it's not something readily identifiable as a gunshot then it stands a good chance of going un-noticed. If the pressurized gas entering the can of the suppressor manages to "sing" just right it can take on a sound similar to that of a soad can who's sides were squeezed and then allowed to pop back out into position and making a sort of "pop". The other thing about the sound signature is that it can be drown out much easier or with distance becomes increasily more difficult to determine where the shot came from based on muzzle report alone. Even on firearms still using supersonic ammunition suppressors can still be beneficial.


Just wish the things were easier to get or didn't have such a negative public perception.
 
Huck Phinn, the Hush Puppy was very real. The one that I saw was on a S&W mod 59. They did not last long, but were relatively small and could be rebuilt. Nothing compared to current wipeless and wet technology.

Jim, MAC made a briefcase to hold a suppressed MAC10 and the MAC could be fired from inside the briefcase. It had sound deadening material in it. Funny thing was that when you opened it after firing smoke would pour out of the case. I believe that H&K has one for the MP5K as well.

I think that I would caution against anyone sticking a potato on the end of their gun. Isn't a potato a rather large bore obstruction? I thought that this was suppose to be a bad thing.
 
It seems to me a revolver can be suppressed easily. Just not near the level of a pistol. I seem to recall that when shooting my revolvers the vast majority of the fireball comes out the front. I imagine a basic suppressor mounted on the front of the barrel would reduce that a great amount. I can see the cylinder gap noise getting worse due to the back pressure but still believe it would be greatly reduced.

Problem is it would still be a loud bang. Just not nearly as loud as without a suppressor.

As for the Hollywood sound effects produced by a "silenced revolver". No Way!

Now I am curious and want to find out how much suppression you can get from a revolver without attempting to control the cylinder gap.
 
The "Hush Puppies" of the Viet Nam war (myth? reality? I'm not sure) are an example.

The S&W 39s and 59s in Vietnam were manufactured with a lever to lock the slide closed if desired.
 
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The Ruger gun is written up in one of those Gun Digest Assault Weapon books.
Also, I saw it on TNT or TBS the other day in a movie about a female secret service
agent played by Margot Hemingway. She was guarding the Pres and the evil assasin
was using it in a sniper role from a very long distance. Looked neat but was very impractical
for the range of the shots.
 
Being exposed to class 3 weapons...and other strange examples of "weapons" ...Ive still never seen the Ruger, just in print. Ive heard that for cov. ops., a 22lr s/auto with a silencer and a "pinned closed" action is preferred. Ive also heard they are very very quiet...Id imagine with the new 'sub sonic" ammo this would be even more so.
As for a wheel gun thats silenced...the cylinder gap, as mentioned, would be the problem. It would take a very precise/specially made gun to be workable..the box filled with sound deadening insulation would work. But IMO, youd need
a good Cortizone for the itch afterward...:D
Shoot well
 
Silenced SMG

Many SMG suppressors are rumored to reduce the sound enough that the bolt slap makes more noise than the shot, and the receiver has to be covered with a sound deadening material to keep the gun quiet. I have heard that egg-crate foam rubber works for that purpose, but that is a rumor.

I have fired the suppressed MP5, the sound of the action is indeed louder than the report, even on full auto the report sounds slightly louder than a CO2 BB pistol......range near me rents fun toys like that.... :)
 
The seals or some navy outfit in vietnam had some suppresed K 38s made up. they cut the bc gap to effective zero believing that the revolvers would not be fired enough for crud or heat to produce cylinder drag.
 
I remember reading an article that was in a gun magazine about 10 years ago about a silenced revolver. They had a regular silencer on the front of the barrel, but what was interesting was how they silenced the cylinder. They constructed a metal case that totally incased the cylinder. From what I think I remember the gun was a .357Mag, but I don't remember what brand of revolver they used.
 
Yay, a two page thread and no one has mentioned my story yet! ;)

Have you seen Godfather Part II? DeNiro as young Vito Corleone kills a mobster with a silenced revolver - he wrapped it in a blanket.

It's pretty funny (& realistic? *shrug*) because after a couple shots, the end of the blanket is on fire! :)
 
I have fired the suppressed MP5, the sound of the action is indeed louder than the report,

Very, very true. Suprising how much noise the action of a gun makes when cycling. Taint nuthin like on TV.
 
braindead0 wrote - - -

A friend and I tried the 2liter bottle trick. Worked great on .22, but.. second try (fresh bottle) and the bottle exploded making more noise than the plain .22.
Not to tell you your business, but, when confessing to a federal felony, you might do well to mention that this all took place so long ago that the statute of limitations for prosecutions has tolled . . . .

And, no, I have no idea of the time frame on that.:p

Interesting thread, though. I think the short answer to the original question would be - - -
Yes, but - - - It would be very complicated and expensive to do so efficiently.

Best,
Johnny Guest
 
I've shot three suppresed weapons. No revolvers though. :)

The first was a Ruger .22. Looked like it had a bull barrel on it. The only sound was the bolt movement. So it sounded like clink, clink, clink. Very quiet, and the noise was such that most people wouldn't even think that it was a gun.

The second was a full auto MAC 10, owned by the same guy. The bolt movement on that was so rapid that it sounded like an angry chipmunk. :) Quite a bit louder than the .22, but still pretty quiet. I shot it with out plugs or muffs and it worked fine. He said that you had to be careful because the vibrations of the gun would loosen the suppresor off.

The third was my favorite. A suppresed Remington 700 in .308. Wow. He had some heavy subsonic loads that made no noise. None. It sounded like dryfiring. The slap of the round hitting made more noise. With full power ammo you could hear the supersonic crack of the bullet, but it was impossible to tell where the shot came from.
 
Back when I was young I remember a magazine or book on Vietnam tunnel rats and weapons they used. One was a S&W model 10 revolver with a suppressor on the barrel. I believe it said that the sound was somewhat supressed but greatly reduced the muzzle flash/blast. I don't remember anything more than that but that was over 25 years ago so my memory may be playing tricks on me.
 
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