Correct, about $100 dollars difference. My point was that if the lower price wasn't the issue, as stated by the poster, but rather the design, a standard Sig or a USP would be much better choices. If it's just a price thing then there are tons of other weapons we can all fight over. At $500 or more a pop, the Pro has little going for it.
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SigPro question
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weldonjr2001
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KAM_Indianapolis:
I should have explained further; the 239 did have a nice single action trigger and was very accurate, but after releasing the trigger the trigger return spring on mine was sorta weak and the return was reaaaal long. I had to let it return almost all the way toward the front of the trigger guard before it would reset and could be pulled again. It was longer than any other pistol I've got (or ever had), and I didn't have confidence that I wouldn't shortstroke it someday when I really needed the second shot. The trigger return spring actually dragged on the inside of the right half of the grip panels. In the original hard plastic grips it didn't matter too much but when I put some of the soft rubber Hogues on it I could feel the return force weaken even further as that rubber or maybe the shape of the cutout for the spring "grabbed" the bend of the spring. I also thought the double action pull of the 239 was too stiff. On my sigpro it is considerably softer.
Handy:
I feel bad about popping off about the reversal of the decocker-slide release. I was operating from memories and I do remember now that it was that I had to pull my thumb back "awkwardly" to get to the slide release. On the sigpro the thumb release falls naturally right under the joint of the thumb for me and is easier to access. The pivot point for the slide release (which is also the slide stop pin) is well forward of the decocker and is extended to the rear of the decocker. That coupled with my obviously not infallable memory produced the "reversal" theory. I apologize for my innaccuracy. I'll take it as a reminder to be more careful about the accuracy of my statements.
All that said, I wish I had my P239 back for another chance. It is the only pistol in my 30+ years of buying and selling that I actually turned a profit on. I do like the more robust grip of the sigpro and the increased capacity. I had originally gotten the P239 for concealed carry but found myself carrying my Kahr k40 more because its trigger was a LOT better (for me). In paper punching single action mode the 239 was better but in "pull gun and shoot 2 different targets twice each" practice I found the Kahr more effective. My 239 also had the center bar of the rear sight painted just a tad to the left of center. So the quick "line up the bar and dot (actually half a dot since the gun shot so low at 12 yards I had to file the front sight down to half a dot)" sight picture and the conventional "front sight centered in rear sight" sight picture didn't agree with each other. Drove me slowly crazy. I also had to bend the plastic recoil spring guide toward the barrel to operate the takedown lever. I don't know if that is typical or not. The friend I sold the gun to called SIG to order another recoil spring and ended up with a steel recoil spring guide and new recoil spring for free. They were going to charge him a few bucks and somehow he talked his way out of any charges.
Incidentally, I paid $425 NIB for my 2009 along with 3 10-round mags at a gun show here in San Antonio.
I should have explained further; the 239 did have a nice single action trigger and was very accurate, but after releasing the trigger the trigger return spring on mine was sorta weak and the return was reaaaal long. I had to let it return almost all the way toward the front of the trigger guard before it would reset and could be pulled again. It was longer than any other pistol I've got (or ever had), and I didn't have confidence that I wouldn't shortstroke it someday when I really needed the second shot. The trigger return spring actually dragged on the inside of the right half of the grip panels. In the original hard plastic grips it didn't matter too much but when I put some of the soft rubber Hogues on it I could feel the return force weaken even further as that rubber or maybe the shape of the cutout for the spring "grabbed" the bend of the spring. I also thought the double action pull of the 239 was too stiff. On my sigpro it is considerably softer.
Handy:
I feel bad about popping off about the reversal of the decocker-slide release. I was operating from memories and I do remember now that it was that I had to pull my thumb back "awkwardly" to get to the slide release. On the sigpro the thumb release falls naturally right under the joint of the thumb for me and is easier to access. The pivot point for the slide release (which is also the slide stop pin) is well forward of the decocker and is extended to the rear of the decocker. That coupled with my obviously not infallable memory produced the "reversal" theory. I apologize for my innaccuracy. I'll take it as a reminder to be more careful about the accuracy of my statements.
All that said, I wish I had my P239 back for another chance. It is the only pistol in my 30+ years of buying and selling that I actually turned a profit on. I do like the more robust grip of the sigpro and the increased capacity. I had originally gotten the P239 for concealed carry but found myself carrying my Kahr k40 more because its trigger was a LOT better (for me). In paper punching single action mode the 239 was better but in "pull gun and shoot 2 different targets twice each" practice I found the Kahr more effective. My 239 also had the center bar of the rear sight painted just a tad to the left of center. So the quick "line up the bar and dot (actually half a dot since the gun shot so low at 12 yards I had to file the front sight down to half a dot)" sight picture and the conventional "front sight centered in rear sight" sight picture didn't agree with each other. Drove me slowly crazy. I also had to bend the plastic recoil spring guide toward the barrel to operate the takedown lever. I don't know if that is typical or not. The friend I sold the gun to called SIG to order another recoil spring and ended up with a steel recoil spring guide and new recoil spring for free. They were going to charge him a few bucks and somehow he talked his way out of any charges.
Incidentally, I paid $425 NIB for my 2009 along with 3 10-round mags at a gun show here in San Antonio.
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magnum_force
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Handy, I can't find any deals on HK USPs. I bought mine for $750 in Calif. Where did you find one new for $600? USP are expensive.
The sigpro is a good weapon, I have a 2340 in 357 sig that is a tackdriver. I have had it for about 18 months and probably 2000 rounds through it. There are definite differences between the pro and the Classics. The pro does seem a little bigger in the grip, the classics have that quality feel to them. I am suprised that the sigpro hasn't captured the law enforcement market big time, mine bought as a LEO was $449.00 out the door w/siglite night sights, which is about the same as the LEO price on a Glock w/out night sights. When I bought mine, duty holsters were a problem, thats been taken care of now. As far as Sigs I like the 225 is the best, closely followed by the 220. I also have a NIB never shot 229 2 tone w/siglites that is just too pretty to shoot. I actually bought it because the serial number means something to me. I think in 9mm the choice is obvious the 225. When you move up to 40/357 the choice is more difficult, the sigpro wins by a little, mine has the best factory Sig trigger of any that I've handled, the drawback is the lack of "Quality Feel". That feeling you get when you release the slide and it "thunks" into battery, Glocks dont have it, sigpro almost has it, Kahr has it, USP's have it and Sig Classics perfected it. Pick the one that you shoot best with, practice with it, become proficent and enjoy. When comparing anything you will get as many opinions as people you ask.... Stay Safe
parabellum9x19
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Thanks for the great information weldonjr2001. $429 sounds like a great price. Does the store in San Antonio have a website or phone number?
Decision was made today!
Thank you everyone who posted their comments to my questions.
I picked up a P229 two-tone this afternoon and have just finished cleaning it in preparation for an afternoon at the range this weekend.
I was a little hesitant about the aluminum frame, but I have yet to find a person who has had any kind of issue other than cosmetics. I went with this one because I wanted to add a lasermax to it later, and it'll be a while or they may never make one for the Pro. Besides that, many people have stated that the trigger is cleaner on the P229.
Thank you everyone who posted their comments to my questions.
I picked up a P229 two-tone this afternoon and have just finished cleaning it in preparation for an afternoon at the range this weekend.
I was a little hesitant about the aluminum frame, but I have yet to find a person who has had any kind of issue other than cosmetics. I went with this one because I wanted to add a lasermax to it later, and it'll be a while or they may never make one for the Pro. Besides that, many people have stated that the trigger is cleaner on the P229.
weldonjr2001
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parabellum9X19
I just stumbled across your question while searching for old posts of mine. I believe the name of the dealer's business is Collin's Small Arms. He probably does have a website. He's at a gunshow in San Antonio the 1st weekend of every month.
I just stumbled across your question while searching for old posts of mine. I believe the name of the dealer's business is Collin's Small Arms. He probably does have a website. He's at a gunshow in San Antonio the 1st weekend of every month.
weldonjr2001
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parabellum9X19
The website is collinsarms.com. I checked and it is the same guy. However on his SIG page he mentions sigpros starting at $499. When I bought mine at his table 2, 3, or 4 months ago he had a 2009 and 2340 side by side for $429 each. Maybe his website is more retailish than gunshow priceish. Anyway, there is a schedule of his gun show stops around Texas. You might be able to hook up with him and see what he's got available.
The website is collinsarms.com. I checked and it is the same guy. However on his SIG page he mentions sigpros starting at $499. When I bought mine at his table 2, 3, or 4 months ago he had a 2009 and 2340 side by side for $429 each. Maybe his website is more retailish than gunshow priceish. Anyway, there is a schedule of his gun show stops around Texas. You might be able to hook up with him and see what he's got available.