Sig P226 versus Beretta 92fs

[Super Blackhawk]

Equal but insane pricing of Sig

These two handguns are equal in every way as far as performance, reliability, quality and durability. They are two of the best made handguns on the market n have been around for over 30 years...
There is one HUGE difference.... the Sig will cost you approx $400 more than the the Beretta and that is INSANITY

 

[Guv]

Get both, that's what I did. I will say though, I also have a 96 which is my favorite of all of them.

 

[TXAZ]

^^^^^^^^^^
What Guy said, get both.

 

[Screwball]

I prefer the controls on Berettas. Have a 92 Brigadier Inox (96G Centurion slide as a conversion), and a 9mm PX4 (converted to G). I'm issued a P229, own a German P228 and P938 SAS. I have no issues with their controls, but do find their triggers to be a little nicer out of box. My problem with SIGs stemmed from back when I bought my Brigadier... pricing.

I put info in Davidson's for a basic 9mm of each. The Beretta is listed as Italian Manufactured, but the SIG has a rail and their night sights.

Beretta was $632.49 to one of the cheapest dealers in my area. SIG, from the same dealer... $949.99!

When I originally looked, my dealer had a regular 92FS, which was like $600... if I remember correctly. There was a used P226 that was rebuilt by SIG... but I guess they only checked function. Looked liked it went through a duty life in an officer's holster... with worn finish. I'm sure it was a nice shooting gun, but the price was the same as the Beretta. I put in $150 more for my gun, but from looking at SIGs over the years, if their CPO pricing was what their new pricing goes for, I'd probably have a few of them. I don't mind paying for a good gun, but I put their quality right there with Beretta or Glock.

My P228 was picked up for $700, but I consider it more of a collectible. Felt it was a good buy. But a standard P226 for $950... sorry, not interested.

My only complaint of the Beretta was regarding the F safety. My Brigadier was an F, but since Beretta released the G conversion kit, it is now like all my other setups... decock only. There was a way to do it before, but was expensive and permanent. On a gun that was the first I actually went out and purchased, rather not do that. A factory kit... that works for me.

 

[Pilot]

I have an Italian made Beretta 92FS that I installed a D spring, and Elite II hammer on, and I really like it. I also have a Sig P228, which is also a good gun, but I don't like it nearly as much. Other than that, I shoot, and prefer my CZ's over both.

Get which ever you shoot better, and feels better in your hand.

 

[JMag1]

P226 in 9mm for me. I prefer the frame-mounted safety on the Taurus 92 to that of the slide safety of the Beretta, BTW.


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[t4terrific]

https://youtu.be/Ph9k3V1mQFc

Here's a good video comparo.

I've owned both, and still have the Beretta. I ditched the P226, but replaced it with a P229.

They are both great guns, though a little large for practical purposes.

The Sig slide catch lever was in a horrible spot. My strong hand thumb rested right on it, preventing the slide from locking back on an empty mag. Eventually Sig acknowledged that people shouldn't be expected to have to shoot their guns using a different grip than they should be using, and has begun offering many of their models with low profile, guarded, and slightly relocated slide catch levers.

Now, they make a low profile lever for the Legion series that can replace the old lever. I installed one on my Sig p229R. It took a slight modification on the left grip to clear it.

 

[BusGunner007]

I just posted to say there's always one 1911 pi$$ in your cornflakes post if the thread isn't about 1911's.

I still don't own a 1911.
I don't own a SIG ( I did accidentally acquire some .357 SIG ammo once... ), so I'm looking for a .357 SIG bbl. for my Beretta Cougars.
I DO own Berettas, so I'm pi$$ing back a bit...!!!

Oh, and IF I ever own a 1911, it will be in .40 CAL.

 

[Dragline45]

But a standard P226 for $950... sorry, not interested.

I picked up a new 226 with night sights and E2 grips for $800 even a few months back, though every other ship I called wanted between $900-$1000 for the same gun.

 

[Screwball]

I picked up a new 226 with night sights and E2 grips for $800 even a few months back, though every other ship I called wanted between $900-$1000 for the same gun.

Yea, but I can go grab a standard 92FS for under $700 everyday this week...

In my eyes, the differences between the two don't justify the higher price. We aren't talking about high end models or cheaply produced options. Both are quality firearms, but I prefer to not have to get lube out when filling out a 4473.

 

[Guv]

Lube, that was gone 20 years ago!

 

[Dragline45]

Yea, but I can go grab a standard 92FS for under $700 everyday this week...

In my eyes, the differences between the two don't justify the higher price. We aren't talking about high end models or cheaply produced options. Both are quality firearms, but I prefer to not have to get lube out when filling out a 4473.

The Sig comes with top quality night sights, that right there is a $100+ value. When you throw in the night sights, the value of the Beretta isn't as dramatic. Like I said previously, I have owned both and the only reason I got rid of my Beretta was because of the slide mounted safety, I think they are fantastic guns and you can't go wrong with either. Now that Beretta reintroduced the 92G, which is a decocker only, I plan on picking one up in the near future.

 

[Rinspeed]

Only my opinion but buying either new is very foolish. The older ones are so much better and can be had for half what a new one costs. The price keeps going up an the quality keeps going down.

 

[TunnelRat]

^I've heard those remarks about SIGs, but not so much Berettas. I know some folks don't like the external parts that are plastic over-molded, but that's not really a quality drop IMO.

 

[Screwball]

The Sig comes with top quality night sights, that right there is a $100+ value. When you throw in the night sights, the value of the Beretta isn't as dramatic. Like I said previously, I have owned both and the only reason I got rid of my Beretta was because of the slide mounted safety, I think they are fantastic guns and you can't go wrong with either. Now that Beretta reintroduced the 92G, which is a decocker only, I plan on picking one up in the near future.

Personally, I don't like Meprolights... but neither here nor there.

Still, you stated that most shops had the SIG in the $900 to $1,000 range. Finding a great buy doesn't change that they are commonly $250 more. Looking on Brownells, they have a set of Trijicons for my Beretta at $122. Even if we do $150, $100 is a nice chunk of money for ammo/magazines. Both guns will do the exact same thing, probably will run flawlessly if maintained, and have a great company backing them. My view, I'll keep that extra $100/250 in my pocket.

But price difference goes even further away if you consider a Glock or M&P. Using the same dealer as the other two prices above... $517.49 for a Glock 19 or 17, and $494.49 for an M&P in 9mm (full size).

Tried to get a price on a similar made pistol, but only thing in stock on Davidson's from CZ is a 75 Compact (didn't check about sights, and not looking it back up). But even that is $632.49. My SP-01, which came with night sights (Meprolights [emoji107]), was $675 at the end of this past April (new). But not a number I would use, because it was from a different dealer and not through Davidson's.

While I love the Beretta, I like the SIG. I run it because I have to, but I'm not going to argue value of them. If you like spending $250 more on an handgun, I'm glad... and I hope at the end of the day, you are too. I've made expensive purchases because I want to. But you really can't give them a pass at pricing when you compare the two. Beretta pistols have lower price tags compared to SIG pistols... even if you consider night sights.

In regards to the 92G, I'm glad they came back out with them... but don't know if they will produce them to meet demand. They have the same MSRP of the FS... but if a lot of people want them, prices might be up there on a limited number. Personally, if it goes to that or you like a different model (Compact, Brigadier, Inox), just get the kit from Beretta for $55 and you turn your FS into a G very easily.

 

[TunnelRat]

But you really can't give them a pass at pricing when you compare the two. Beretta pistols have lower price tags compared to SIG pistols... even if you consider night sights.

Given the contracts Beretta has had with the US military for the M9/M9A1 I can understand why it is cheaper. I have no issues with the 92 series Berettas but if you think about it the cost of R&D and the tooling has been subsidized by John Q taxpayer for a long time. Now yes the P226 has seen use with certain units, but nowhere on the scale of the Beretta. That does help trickle down to the consumers. The same is true with SIG and the SP2022 that has been adopted on a similar scale.

Now I am under no illusions that SIG isn't making a healthy profit, I'm just pointing out there is some degree of reason why the prices would be different.

 

[Rinspeed]

I've heard those remarks about SIGs, but not so much Berettas. I know some folks don't like the external parts that are plastic over-molded, but that's not really a quality drop IMO.

I admit I'm certainly not up on the Berettas as much but the last couple of US made ones I shot didn't hold a candle to the Italian versions from 20-25 years ago. Just from a fit and finish point of view, I guess you can say that about most new pistols though.

Good friend of mine owns several S&W autos from the 60's and early 70's. You handle and shoot a couple of them and I personally wonder who the hell would buy a new POS from S&W after even seeing one of the older ones. It's like night and day. I don't sell guns but damn, I missed out on some nice pistols over the years. Back when they were $250 a pop I should have mortgaged the house.

 

[t4terrific]

Yea, but I can go grab a standard 92FS for under $700 everyday this week...

In my eyes, the differences between the two don't justify the higher price. We aren't talking about high end models or cheaply produced options. Both are quality firearms, but I prefer to not have to get lube out when filling out a 4473.

Typical gun shops around Central Florida sell the regular old Beretta 92FS for $599, with the occasional $549 sale price.

That's what I paid for mine. $549, at Shoot Straight in Tampa two years ago.

 

[Screwball]

Typical gun shops around Central Florida sell the regular old Beretta 92FS for $599, with the occasional $549 sale price.

That's what I paid for mine. $549, at Shoot Straight in Tampa two years ago.

Prices definitely are different in different areas. All mine were in central NJ.

What's SIG pricing, if you don't mind me asking?

Now I am under no illusions that SIG isn't making a healthy profit, I'm just pointing out there is some degree of reason why the prices would be different.

I understand that, but SIG had plenty of L/E contracts since the mid-1980s. Should have definitely caught up by now.

I bought my Brigadier new back at the tail end of the AWB... 2004ish. SIG classic pistol pricing has been noticeably higher since then... but most of their firearms are up there.

I do want to point out that the P320 can be had in a full size in about the same price point as Glocks. Either it didn't cost them anything to develop, or it is cheaper than a Glock to produce.

 

[TunnelRat]

^the third possibility is that Glock has artificially kept their prices high for some time and that newer manufacturers are willing to accept lower profit per pistol to try to get market share. If SIG is doing it then no reason Glock can't do the same.


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