azredhawk44
Moderator
Uh oh...
It's Wild"godofhisownlittleweirdworldinanchorage,alaska"Alaska.
Everybody run for the hills quick!
AZditatdeusRedhawk44
Should visitors from the U.S. to Iraq (or any country) be allowed to KBA
- Thread starter Doug.38PR
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Uh oh...
It's Wild"godofhisownlittleweirdworldinanchorage,alaska"Alaska.
Everybody run for the hills quick!
AZditatdeusRedhawk44
Okay then, what do you need? If there are no moral absolutes, how do you, Wildalaska presume to say that the extermination of 6 million Jews was wrong? For that matter who are you to say that some poor bum can't walk up and make off with your car or wallet?
If you don't believe in God or moral absolutes that is your opinion, but just follow them to their logical conclusion and look what you have. If there is no authority beyond what the state says is right and wrong, constantly subject to change, then there really is no right or wrong.
If the state decided one day that it is perfectly right and legal to come in and take Wildalaska's children or guns or property for the "good of the whole" or for some other reason then you would have no true grounds to oppose them. Constitution? Well that's just a piece of paper, it doesn't mean anything to those people, they can just throw it in the trash if they want.
Wildalaska
Moderator
Did I say there were not? Reread please.
You mean to tell me that society does not have a right to put the interests of the many over the individual?
WildandwiththenextresponseletsgoresomeoxenAlaska
Oh so you're saying there are? How then? If there is no higher authority than the whim of a subjective state, then how can there be moral absolutes, and who decides them?
No they do not. So if society decides that it is short on food and decides that a third of it's population needs to be soilent green (people) for food, then that's that. BTW, let's say you are a part of that 1/3. Are you just going to timidly submit to that and accept society's verdict of the good of the many?
DougImnotevengoingtotrytoreadallthatjibberishsoIhopeyoudonttryreadingmineeitherasitisbadforyoureyes.38PR
Wildalaska
Moderator
Good. So you would be against forcible quarantines for infectious disease carriers? How about AIDs patients...should their status be public knowledge?
I have more if ya want......
Genetics and evolution
WildtheonetruegodsAlaska
Un-A- Lienable rights
That's what the founders really meant. The rights of a human being cannot have a lien put on it. Well now we have liens on every aspect of our lives. [ fishing, drivers, hunting, gun, boat , trailer licenses. We the people let this happen. Some people may disagree with W/A but he's got a great business rating through his forum members. All I know, is if we give up our protection, we will have only bottles and rocks to fight back with. I've been teaching self defense for 28 yrs, I don't need a gun for self defense, but the 2 nd says I can own one. They are a great hobby, and they keep me happy and also, it keeps away tyranny, it makes our society safer. just try to take a gun to Mexico or England. What keeps this country free is gun ownership.
That's what the founders really meant. The rights of a human being cannot have a lien put on it. Well now we have liens on every aspect of our lives. [ fishing, drivers, hunting, gun, boat , trailer licenses. We the people let this happen. Some people may disagree with W/A but he's got a great business rating through his forum members. All I know, is if we give up our protection, we will have only bottles and rocks to fight back with. I've been teaching self defense for 28 yrs, I don't need a gun for self defense, but the 2 nd says I can own one. They are a great hobby, and they keep me happy and also, it keeps away tyranny, it makes our society safer. just try to take a gun to Mexico or England. What keeps this country free is gun ownership.
No I would not. They do not have the right to infect other people with their diseases which would violating somebody else's rights. Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins.
I don't think anybody's status should be public knowledge. I would be for doing away with Social Security, Medicare, the IRS, etc. I don't even want the feds to know I exist. The less they know and have the better.
go ahead
Oh, survival of the fittest. The animal kingdom. So if we can kill all crippled people we should do it to "decrease the surplus population." They are worthless people because they can't walk or see or hear.
azredhawk44
Moderator
Genetics and evolution decide morality?
How depressing.
I can see how one might think that... previous dominant world religions have permitted and endorsed pedophilia, slavery and all manner of depredation of the relatively powerless individual to the masses or to figures of authority. There was nothing to fight against them, it seemed.
Or was there?
Look at the most powerful societies in the world today. Our march towards higher standards in living and moral values has dips and valleys much like a stock market ticker, but still inexhorably climbs upwards. The revolutionary war was a "bull market" on this stage.
Something moves us as a world to higher standards, and free people tend to espouse to the same values... the right to self preservation, the right to self determination, the right to contribute to the collective decision pool.
I ain't a bible-beater, wild... I haven't been in a church in years, nor picked up a bible to read in a long time either.
But if it ain't God, then it has to be some sort of internal compass that KNOWS moral north. Perhaps we are made in his image somehow, even if it is in this small way?
AZinexhorablyreachingRedhawk44
DonR101395
New member
Actually you can take your guns to other countries, provided 1. you're not breaking their laws in doing so 2. You fill out a BATF form 6 get it approved which is a matter of course as long as where you are going doesn't have issues with you doing it.
I have a friend who travels to South American countries quite often and the only problem he's had is the one time when he misplaced the form 6 and Customs confiscated his pistol coming back in the country. He wrote an appeal, explained what happened, and that he had lost the form 6 and they returned his gun in about 2 months time frame after researching and seeing that he applies a lot, they gave him the benefit of the doubt.
I have a friend who travels to South American countries quite often and the only problem he's had is the one time when he misplaced the form 6 and Customs confiscated his pistol coming back in the country. He wrote an appeal, explained what happened, and that he had lost the form 6 and they returned his gun in about 2 months time frame after researching and seeing that he applies a lot, they gave him the benefit of the doubt.