Should I sell two guns to finance an HKP7 ?

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I handled an HK P7 the other day, nice gun ! I own three handguns, and I'd like to scale that down to two. One of them is definitely my 1911 (for home defense), the other two, a S&W 686 and a CZ 75 don't really fill any special purpose, they're just fun to shoot at the range. Anyways, I'm considering selling both the CZ and the S&W to fund the purchase of the HK, reasons being that the HK seems like it would be accurate and fun to shoot at the range, AND it would fill a practical role in my arsenal, carry.

Your comments please: Is the HK a durable gun ? What should I expect to pay for a refurbished one ? What should I look for (any particular markings) ?

Please spare me the "Never sell a gun !" comments, I don't have the space in my safe for more than two, and I don't wan't to overstep the boundary of gun owner to gun nut, more so for reasons of keeping my dating pool options open.
 
All things considered, I would say NO. It seems like I was always looking to upgrade for some reason or another. I would further add that you would still probably have a cash dificiency trading up on the P7. I know the P7 has a bit of a cult following, but so does the CZ, and IMHO, the CZ is a better shooter. Hope this helps...Mike
 
Yea I just checked that post out, very informative. Originally I was considering a Glock, but since I live in CA, hicaps are out of the question (another reason I wouldn't mind getting rid of the CZ).

I've shot the G27, which would fit my criteria, but it's not a practical "range" gun. Besides, where I live I can get a refurbished P7 for about $60-$80 more than the Glock 27. I also shot the 26 and 19, the 26 did nothing for me while the 19 left me wishing I lived in a free state.

Oh well, I guess I'll have to compare the P7 side by side with my CZ and see if its really worth it.
 
Try the 9mm USP fullsize.....
Much more durable than the P7 for the abuse factor IMO....
Streamline always if at all practical!!!
I will be doing the same shortly....

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ACCOUNT FOR EVERY SHOT
AND MAKE EVERY SHOT COUNT
 
I wouldn't pay $850 for a refurb, but if you can get one for $600, I would definitely get one. They have ranged from $525 - $850.
 
I'm also considering getting rid of the Custom Classic. I've never really warmed to this particular 1911. Might as well get rid of the whole lot and start over then eh ?

This is what I want, a 1911 smithed to my specs, a compact 9mm or .40 that is fun to shoot at the range while waiting on my 1911, and a nickeled pump action .22 (don't ask !! :)).
 
Assuming they're reliable, and I wanted the pistol to shoot, not collect, I'd rather have the 686 or the CZ than an HK. My limited first-hand experience with various HK pistols has left me unimpressed with both their reliability and durability. I also understand HK recommends against the use of both lead and Winchester Silvertip bullets in the P7, as the gas system fouls easily. (If I HAD to get an HK pistol, it would be a USP; I've heard good things about those.)
 
It depends on you. I've always regretted giving up or selling one gun for another. I've thought about the few that I've sold.. even they were at REALLY GOOD prices. My M1 Carbine, six 30rd mags, extra springs, trigger mech, the whole nine yards. I bought it for $120 and sold it in NY for $650. I still miss that rifle. P85 Ruger (first one) with three hi-caps (standard back then).. bought for $395 and sold for $500 (with hi-caps). And the third P89 with five hi-caps, bought for $350 and sold for $700. Now I have no "standard" (aka hi-caps) for pistol but only for rifle (SKS). I miss them, they shoot very well and all mags functioned perfectly. I did buy my two USP's with this money.. but ten rounds... I miss my standard mags.

USP45usp
 
I once traded two rifles for one rifle. It was a nice rifle I ended up with, but I have regretted it ever since. Stupid, stupid, I'm having flashbacks...
 
My only addition to this is as a rabid p7 fan I bought my first one and was so impressed that I picked up a P7PSP the next month. Unbelievably accurate out of the box and easy to shoot. Yes get the P7 and never look back.

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P229 Sport and 357 SIG, H&K P7PSP and 9MM, Dual Perfection!!
 
Well, upon reading your post my suggestion is to sell ALL your guns. You obviously don't have the mindset to own one, since you don't want to be a "gun nut" (and with 253 postings to this board, I think..oh well), and just owning one can drop you into that particular stereotype with many of the opposite sex. I had a few more choice words, but I'll keep them to myself. No need to thank me.

[This message has been edited by BB (edited October 23, 2000).]
 
If you shoot 9mm a lot, the P7 is a must for your collection and carry options. The PSP is wafer thin. Their deployment and re-engagement speed smokes.

I'd patiently look for a fella who is dumping his refurbed P7. You should be able to snag one for about $650-700 with a couple of magazines. I've purchased both the P7M8 and the PSP version. For CCW, it's the PSP.

Ask any P7 owner whose got several different pistols by different manufacturers and a good 90 percent of them will keep their P7s.

Other than a 1911, it's the only other pistol I'd spend the better part of a grand on.

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The Seattle SharpShooter - TFL/GT/UGW/PCT/KTOG
 
I'd not sell or trade.

The S&W 686 and the CZ-75 are two of the better guns of their type.

Keep them, and just save for the P7.

You won't gain THAT much in accuracy or shootability with the P7 over the CZ, and if you're going to have a revolver you could do worse than the 686.

(I have a CZ-85 Combat which I love, and it shoots, bullet for bullet with my SIG P-210. The CZ-75 is the same basic gun... and the P-210 and the P7 are close in terms of
accuracy.)
 
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