Should I just get a Glock 19???

They have these things called thumb safeties.....get one. Glocks are fine guns, but if something is out of whack, sooner or later the trigger will be pulled. Could be you, could be a tree limb!
 
Glad you liked shooting the P07 better. Go with what ya shoot best.

Do note, that when my P07 was new it did NOT like 115 grain range ammo for the first 500 or so rounds, I had to break the springs in with some WWB NATO 124 gr. After it loosened up a bit it ran everything with boring reliability.

As for the whole holstering thing, especially AIWB, just holster, then clip on your belt. Leave it alone all day and boom, no ND worries. I think folks holster and unholster way too often (theoretically) on the internet. I only ever holster once, and unholster once a day for nearly all my days. If I need to go to a place and disarm, I use a single clip holster that day and just un clip the whole holster, no danger no fuss no muss.
 
I should get a CZ P07 and look extra hard for accessories. That gun is beautiful. I was keeping 3" easily at 50' where the target was obscured by the front sight. I couldn't touch that with the Glock. Clearly, FOR ME, this is the right gun!

I actually wouldn't worry about lack of accessories. Cajun gun works has tons, plus there are some other companies out there as well. CGW has reasonable prices as well. Holsters are a breeze also. If you're ok with leather, most holsters that fit a Springfield XD or SIG p226 will work well enough. They will work perfect if you soak and reshape them.

All that being said, a Glock 19 is a fine utilitarian service piece. I wouldn't feel outgunned if I carried one. But carry what feels best for you. I carry a P07 on duty these days. Thing shoots like a dream.
 
They have these things called thumb safeties.....get one. Glocks are fine guns, but if something is out of whack, sooner or later the trigger will be pulled. Could be you, could be a tree limb!

That is so not true. The Glock platform is as safe any any other. It will outlast you and I if you do not bubba it. 99% of ND with Glocks are user error not a problem with the platform.
 
Glad you liked shooting the P07 better. Go with what ya shoot best.

Do note, that when my P07 was new it did NOT like 115 grain range ammo for the first 500 or so rounds, I had to break the springs in with some WWB NATO 124 gr. After it loosened up a bit it ran everything with boring reliability.

As for the whole holstering thing, especially AIWB, just holster, then clip on your belt. Leave it alone all day and boom, no ND worries. I think folks holster and unholster way too often (theoretically) on the internet. I only ever holster once, and unholster once a day for nearly all my days. If I need to go to a place and disarm, I use a single clip holster that day and just un clip the whole holster, no danger no fuss no muss.
Yes, I generally never holster the weapon... except in classes or training where it's constantly repeated.
 
Whatever you practice with you can make work for you. My Gen3 G19 works great for me alongside my CZ P-01, my Walther PPS-M2 and my HK P30 9mm and my HK P2000 9mm. I’d like to add a new Gen5 G19 with the AmeriGlo Bold night sights, but if I come across a nice Sig P239 SAS Gen2 9mm, which isn’t easy to come across, the new Glock will have to wait!
 
I got my sister the Walther PPQ and the trigger is better than Glock's. I do carry a Glock 43 though. Competition spurs innovation and constant improvement.

The reason the PPQ and others like it have an easier trigger pull is that they are fully cocked when the slide is pulled back. Therefore, cocked and NOT locked. With handguns like this I prefer to have a safety. With Glocks the trigger is at half-cock and pulling the trigger completes the cocking sequence.
 
vba said:
The reason the PPQ and others like it have an easier trigger pull is that they are fully cocked when the slide is pulled back. Therefore, cocked and NOT locked. With handguns like this I prefer to have a safety. With Glocks the trigger is at half-cock and pulling the trigger completes the cocking sequence.

Glocks have a 5.5 lb. trigger on average. There have been plenty of accidental/negligent discharges with them. Does half cock really make a difference when talking about striker fired pistols? Walther's site puts their trigger pull at 5.6 lbs. If you snag the trigger on either, it is going to go off. I don't think you are going to find any real world difference in accidental discharges between the two guns.
 
I too have holster / unholster concerns with a glock, but I holster my Glock prior to attaching that holster to my belt and that eliminates the concerns.
 
Glocks have a 5.5 lb. trigger on average. There have been plenty of accidental/negligent discharges with them. Does half cock really make a difference when talking about striker fired pistols? Walther's site puts their trigger pull at 5.6 lbs. If you snag the trigger on either, it is going to go off. I don't think you are going to find any real world difference in accidental discharges between the two guns.

Been carrying Glocks for some 25 years and have never had a problem "snagging" the trigger. Use a proper holster and get some safe handgun training if this is a problem.

The Glock trigger has a trigger with a distinct takeup vs. S&W M&P and Walther. I know because I've shot these guns. This is especially so with my Ruger LC9s and the reason I purchased this gun with a safety. The M&P and Walther is gone. Yes I know one can get an M&P with a safety.
 
Glocks have a 5.5 lb. trigger on average. There have been plenty of accidental/negligent discharges with them. Does half cock really make a difference when talking about striker fired pistols? Walther's site puts their trigger pull at 5.6 lbs. If you snag the trigger on either, it is going to go off. I don't think you are going to find any real world difference in accidental discharges between the two guns.
I agree. PPQ also has firing pin block safety, trigger safety, and a good deal of take up in the trigger. It is nothing like cocked and unlocked but a person should go with what they are comfortable with.
 
vba said:
Been carrying Glocks for some 25 years and have never had a problem "snagging" the trigger. Use a proper holster and get some safe handgun training if this is a problem.

The Glock trigger has a trigger with a distinct takeup vs. S&W M&P and Walther. I know because I've shot these guns. This is especially so with my Ruger LC9s and the reason I purchased this gun with a safety. The M&P and Walther is gone. Yes I know one can get an M&P with a safety.

The point I was making is that the trigger pull weight is very similar between the Glock and the Walther PPQ. You say you prefer having a safety due to the Walther being fully cocked. It has 2 drop safeties and a trigger safety. You are absolutely entitled to your opinion, but I fail to see any real difference "safety-wise" between the half-cock of Glock's trigger and Walther's fully cocked trigger other than a better trigger feel for Walther.
 
stephen426;

A series 80 1911 has three safeties as well (not including the thumb safety), half-cock, firing pin and grip safety. I've got a series 80 Colt with roughly the same pull weight as my Glock and would never carry it without the safety engaged.

But as you say everyone is entitled to their opinion and I acquiesce to yours.
 
vba,

Not trying to beat a dead horse, but the typical 1911 has a much shorter trigger pull than the PPQ. I tried to like the Springfield Armory XDs since it added a grip safety, but I hated the trigger. The Powder River Precision make it less reliable and I ended up getting rid of it. The main point is I don't see a real difference in likelihood of accidental/negligent discharge between the Glock and Walther since it requires the trigger to be pulled all the way (to disengage the firing pin safety). Like I said, carry what you are comfortable with. :)
 
I too have holster / unholster concerns with a glock, but I holster my Glock prior to attaching that holster to my belt and that eliminates the concerns.
Do you do this each time you reholster during a training class? That could be dozens of times
 
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